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Eugene

(67,102 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:04 PM Oct 2023

The Trump 'haircut': yes, Deutsche Bank really used this term in reducing what Trump said he was wor

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The Trump 'haircut': yes, Deutsche Bank really used this term in reducing what Trump said he was worth

Laura Italiano
Wed, October 11, 2023 at 5:07 PM EDT·5 min read

• Trump's civil fraud trial, which could run him and Trump Org out of NY, is in its second week.
• On Wednesday, state officials called former Deutsche Bank banker Nicholas Haigh to the stand.
• He described the so-called Trump "haircut": routinely applied reductions to Trump's stated worth.

They called it the Trump "haircut."

Really, that was what Deutsche Bank – Donald Trump's most generous lender – called the routine cuts they applied to whatever the former president told them he was worth.

The "haircut" reference was made Wednesday at Trump's New York civil fraud trial, now mid-way through its second week. The word jumped out during an esoteric finance discussion.

"First of all, what is a haircut?" Kevin Wallace, an attorney for the AG's office, asked while questioning one of the former president's chief barbers, so to speak, Nicholas Haigh.

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-haircut-yes-deutsche-bank-210728495.html

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The Trump 'haircut': yes, Deutsche Bank really used this term in reducing what Trump said he was wor (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2023 OP
Makes sense, actually. tanyev Oct 2023 #1
This is a standard term in finance, having nothing to do with Donnie's do. unblock Oct 2023 #2
I used the term as a reduction in compensation or pay typically chicoescuela Oct 2023 #4
Yes, really any amount that gets reduced. unblock Oct 2023 #7
So his dick is actually 1.5 in less than he says it is. milestogo Oct 2023 #10
this is sort of amusing stopdiggin Oct 2023 #3
My first thought, too. NM Grins Oct 2023 #12
Don't have much sympathy for banks in this, but I doubt they've been hurt. Silent Type Oct 2023 #5
That bank is known to be sketchy Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #6
why did DB loan Trump Org money when no one else would? nt wiggs Oct 2023 #8
Maybe this might remind you ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #11
yes, but this was with 100% approval stopdiggin Oct 2023 #14
as I understand it it was becuse DB stopdiggin Oct 2023 #13
I read somewhere a while back that the loans were guaranteed... Buns_of_Fire Oct 2023 #9

tanyev

(49,298 posts)
1. Makes sense, actually.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:10 PM
Oct 2023

Donald's own descriptions of his wealth match his puffed up, leonine illusion of a hairdo when the reality is a large balding area with a very long and complicated comb-over.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
2. This is a standard term in finance, having nothing to do with Donnie's do.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:13 PM
Oct 2023

Although in his case it's particularly fitting....

unblock

(56,198 posts)
7. Yes, really any amount that gets reduced.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:53 PM
Oct 2023

Actually in this case what's unusual is that they directly adjusted the estimate. More typically, a bank would "take a larger reserve" against the estimate.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
3. this is sort of amusing
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:14 PM
Oct 2023

but actually lends credence to an argument that Trump's creditors were not in essence 'deceived'. (never believed his 'figures' in the first place)

Or at least that's what I come away with here ..

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
5. Don't have much sympathy for banks in this, but I doubt they've been hurt.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 10:19 PM
Oct 2023

I used to work for state government. We presented our budgets to a guy known as “20 off the top” Smith. So you inflated the budget.

The property tax will get him/organization fined big time, although you have to wonder about officials that let him get away with it.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
14. yes, but this was with 100% approval
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 11:48 AM
Oct 2023

of the bank's corporate heads. Nothing back door or shady about it. Kennedy was doing exactly what his superiors were asking of him. (and in fact Deutsche specifically hired he, and others, to fulfill that prescribed role)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/business/trump-deutsche-bank.html

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
13. as I understand it it was becuse DB
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 11:29 AM
Oct 2023

was desirous (almost desperate) to 'get in' to the New York real estate market - and were willing to take a 'known risk' (in DJT) to that end. And their corporate officers (directors?) brought in people whose remit was just exactly that. (and apparently that mission wasn't really any kind of secret, either within or without the organization)

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
9. I read somewhere a while back that the loans were guaranteed...
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 11:35 PM
Oct 2023

...by Russian banks and other friends of Pootie, of course.

Which might explain why DB lent him money, even after the "haircut". Having a co-signer works wonders.

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