Carter Center Calls for the Protection of Israeli and Palestinian Civilians Amid Escalating Violence

[Donkees]

ATLANTA — The Carter Center strongly condemns the targeting of Israeli and Palestinian civilians and calls for genuine dialogue as well as international collective action to halt hostilities in the region.

Our hearts are heavy with sorrow for the tragic loss of innocent lives on all sides of the conflict. We urge all parties to prioritize the protection and well-being of civilians by refraining from actions that target residential areas.

The Carter Center acknowledges the profound historical and religious significance this region holds for all parties involved. The fundamental human rights of all residents of the region must be protected, land claims and security concerns addressed, and the sanctity of Muslim and Christian holy sites preserved. In addition, it is crucial to recognize the complex dynamics of this situation, including the ongoing occupation.

The Carter Center calls upon the international community to engage actively in building peace in the region. The urgency for a robust and renewed peace process has never been greater. There is not a military solution to the crisis – only a political one. We implore the international community to fulfill its responsibilities and reinvigorate a credible process that brings peace and security for both Israelis and Palestinians while safeguarding the lives of all civilians.

https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/2023/israeli-and-palestinian-civilians-protection-100823.html

[angrychair]

1. It's heartbreaking

Not sure how much, if at all, that president Carter is aware of the situation between Israel and Hamas. He spent a lifetime trying to broker peace in the region and I hope that, eventually, that dream will one day become a reality.

[walkingman]

2. When I hear the media saying this will be Israel's 9/11 I think I hope they

don't use the US as an example. We clearly over-reacted, attacked and killed hundreds of thousands for no reason and changed this nation, not in a good way, forever.

The "lust for war" seems to be never-ending and it is always the innocent that become the victims.

[prodigitalson]

3. if they follow our example they'll invade Ghana or Norway

[burrowowl]

11. That seems about right

[Permanut]

12. Hey, wherever the WMDs are.

[SCantiGOP]

8. 100% agree, walkingman

An accurate and concise description.

[JohnSJ]

4. Anyone who thinks there will not be retaliation, is being naive.

[LiberaBlueDem]

5. Like Carter

Peace is the foremost idea from his center.

I do not know why anyone would want to live there, or even visit

[malaise]

6. One of the few places above the fray

An honest broker

[Alexander Of Assyria]

24. He is closer to God than almost anyone still living, I wish the mass media would pay

more attention just now to this man, need equal media time law for peace in times of war.

[Dorn]

7. I agree: "prioritize the protection and well-being of civilians"

[Mr.Bill]

9. Carter takes the wise position

of calling for the rights and protection of innocent civilians. Of course, the likelyhood is we will sell arms to one side and watch the fireworks. We do this very well.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

10. Yes. Both sides are equally terrorizing women and children. Equal opportunity terrorism seems to

be ok with the West, as long as it doesn’t harm them much…and can jolt the profitable weapons for killing civilians mostly trade!

[onenote]

13. Equally?

Hamas killed 260 people (maybe more) attending a music festival. In no way a military or government target.

And now Hamas is threatening to execute hostages and post videos of the executions.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

15. Many many more civilians killed by IDF than other way around last fifty years, so yes, not equal!

Everyone agree with Bibi that Gazans should be genocided….and turned into rubble to bury women children and anyone else in the open air prison?

Or we still ignoring that stated genocidal vision… as much as ignoring a second coup attempt in American media?

[prodigitalson]

16. how many more? you are probably right

but I would like to know the numbers of civilians killed on both sides for the last few decades.

this is the best I could get from chatgpt


As of my last knowledge update in September 2021, I can provide you with some general figures, but please be aware that these numbers may have changed since then. Additionally, the nature of the conflict makes it challenging to provide precise and uncontested figures.

Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (Approximate figures up to September 2021):

Israeli Civilians Killed by Terrorism: Over the years, numerous Israelis have been killed in attacks carried out by various Palestinian groups. The numbers can vary depending on the time frame considered, but it's in the hundreds.

Palestinian Civilians Killed: Casualty figures for Palestinian civilians are more challenging to determine due to the complex nature of the conflict. There have been significant casualties in various conflicts and clashes, including operations by the Israeli military and other incidents. The numbers are in the thousands.

I couldn't get the robot to be more specific

[Alexander Of Assyria]

17. It's 30 times more on one side, not even close...there are charts and graphs...easy to find...

Conflict by conflict casualties…not even close…

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

[onenote]

19. It's not for lack of trying by Hamas. They have initiated attacks on Israel for years.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. Hamas moved in with the stated goal of eradicating the Israeli state. Israel, not surprisingly, decided that containment of that threat was a good strategy and thus blockaded Gaza as a defensive measure.

Sometimes the side that initiates violence suffers greater injury than the side defending itself. Presumably, you don't think the Japanese still have a justifiable basis for killing a bunch of Americans to event the score with the Japanese that died from American bombs in World War II.

Finally, while civilians are killed when Israel responds, its response is targeted at military and Hamas targets, which Hamas has chosen to place in proximity to civilians. It is in no way "equal" to murdering women and children attending a music festival that with no connection or proximity to Israeli military or government targets. Maybe Israel should take some Gaza residents hostage and threaten to murder them if Hamas doesn't stand down. Would that make things "equal"?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

20. Perhaps the phrase.. strawman accusations...rings a bell?? Needs more straw...

[onenote]

21. If you're referring to your posts, I agree. I've added more to my post by the way.

[prodigitalson]

22. thanks for the link. I'm not surprised

the way these things seem to have gone in my lifetime is some suicide bomber blows up a restaurant/club etc. often killing and maiming dozens of civilians including children...some pretty horrific stuff.

then the IDF levels blocks and blocks of residential areas that probably had some bad guys in at least a couple of those buildings..but also hundreds of civilians including children.

wash and repeat

however, what just happened and is still unfolding is quite different. according to the very informative link you shared I believe just over three hundred Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinian (or other) terrorists from 2008 - 2023 (compared to a staggering 6,000 on the Palestinian side.

Now let this sink in - Hamas has killed twice as many Israeli civilians in the last 48 hours than they, Hezbollah and anyone else combined did over the last 15 years, not to mention the hostages they have now taken and are threatening to execute tit for tat with Palestinian civilians killed by the IDF.

Hamas has guaranteed a brutal response from the despicable Netenyahu, and it will rally Israelis around him. But even without Bibi any Israeli government's raison d'être would be to eliminate Hamas root and branch. And many many innocent people will die.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

23. I pray for the safety of all civilians, and as much for brave journalists in Gaza...a few...see

Al Jazeera for the other side of the full war picture, for those that can see or want to see, the full picture.

The terrorists on both sides need to be exterminated, peaceful people can’t get into the conversation much except as casualties?

[Uncle Joe]

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Donkees

[redqueen]

18. Kick

Rec'd earlier.

Sad times.

[SunImp]

25. Kick