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Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 04:57 AM Oct 2023

Sorry for the dumb question, but....

...I'm confused.

In another thread, I came across this quote from republican person:

"“He (referring to trump) is endorsing Jim Jordan, and I believe Congress should listen to the leader of our party,” Nehls wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter."

Now, I know that when a person is the sitting President of the U.S., they are automatically the 'leader' of their respective party.

My question is:

Who is the leader of any given party when that party isn't in the whitehouse? And how is that person hired for that job?

Is trump being paid in a 'leader' position of the repub party like that guy nehls said? Because I thought some lady named Ro something was in that job(?).

Or is this nehls guy just making up sh!t? And if so, anyone know what the Ro person thinks about that?

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Sorry for the dumb question, but.... (Original Post) Think. Again. Oct 2023 OP
Answer: James48 Oct 2023 #1
Thank You!... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #3
Not dumb at all. First, define "leader". Is the leader of a party one... TreasonousBastard Oct 2023 #2
I guess that's my question in a nutshell... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #4
Technically, it would be head of the Republican national committee JT45242 Oct 2023 #5
he just said the obvious....look at the polls dembotoz Oct 2023 #6
Yeah... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #7
Here's the only "Ro" person I could find, and he's a Democrat... Glorfindel Oct 2023 #8
No, I think it might be Ronna McDaniel, dmr Oct 2023 #9
Yes, that makes MUCH more sense! Glorfindel Oct 2023 #10
Yep!... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #11

James48

(4,989 posts)
1. Answer:
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:01 AM
Oct 2023

The most recent former President is considered the leader when that party is not in power. It’s not a paid position or anything- it’s just historically always been referred to that way.

Obama was the leader of the Dems when Trump was in office..

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
3. Thank You!...
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:08 AM
Oct 2023

...but there is also an 'official' party leader position that actually does the work part, right?

And that's who that Ro person is for the repub party? Is that how it works?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Not dumb at all. First, define "leader". Is the leader of a party one...
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:06 AM
Oct 2023

who accepted a leadership role given by the party members, or one who just won't shut up and cows his competition?

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
4. I guess that's my question in a nutshell...
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 05:15 AM
Oct 2023

I assume there is a paid administrative head of each party?

But apparently the word 'leader' can apply to the current President (or former President if the party is not in office) in addition to the actual leader of the party, even though that person is not actually leading anything? Like an honorary thing? Is that how it works?

JT45242

(3,664 posts)
5. Technically, it would be head of the Republican national committee
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 06:38 AM
Oct 2023

The party chair decides who the party invests in, rules for the debates, suggests primates and orders.

But... Two things have altered that

1. Citizens united....simply put the biggest mega donors run the party by buying the most seats, especially given the gerrymandering of almost 90 percent of house districts. This is why the Kich brothers always invested in the legislature rather than presidential elections. Think it is easier to, and sure fire wins, to buy 100 representatives and 10 senators, than maybe buy a president. See Joni Ernst in the Senate and the coup caucus. The Koch's in many ways ran the party by buying enough politicians to stop (that filibuster thing that Moscow mitch really exploded) any legislation that they didn't want. Again, using Ernst as an example. Iowa's biggest industries after agriculture are wind turbines and biodiesel. She has voted against both repeatedly because they would hurt the Koch empire.

2. The cult of TFG...the Koch model works when the politicians you bought are afraid of you supporting someone else in the primary. Now. The 'base' for primaries are the MAGA loons who will oust traditional or even AstroTurf rethugs bought and sold by billionaires because mango Mussolini called them rino.

Because of #2, the RNC and it's head which should be running the party at the behest of the billionaire donors who get people elected are now doing things because mango Mussolini, who gets people best in the general election, wants it.

In the past, I would have said the money behind the federalist society, the Koch brothers, etc. were really running the Republican party thru the RNC...now it is a cult

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
7. Yeah...
Fri Oct 6, 2023, 07:30 AM
Oct 2023

I guess I just got confused because he made it sound as though the repub congress had an obligation to obey some kind of official authority of his.

But he's just another magat jerk.

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