Stop paying congress and senate during shut downs

[mysteryowl]

New rule, if you want to shut down the government, than politicians don't get paid!

Logical, they are holding the pay for federal workers, so..... that means you!


Update: there are 50 millionaires between the (35)house and (14)senate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_wealth

[lapfog_1]

1. as a symbol, sure

and that should be done...

but lack of a paycheck will not affect over 90% of these fuckers... most are millionaires.

The ones that this would hurt are very likely Democrats.

[mysteryowl]

5. There are 50 millionaires between house and senate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_wealth

[lapfog_1]

10. how many live paycheck to paycheck

and have assets less than, say, $100,000

[FBaggins]

16. Far more than that

The 50th person on the list you linked to was worth over ten million

There were over 200 on the opensecrets list based on 2018 filings

[mysteryowl]

18. I noticed that too

I wonder where the rest are listed

[rurallib]

2. Was thinking about this last night - most congress critters are wealthy

so not paying them would do little. Fining them might get their attention though.

Of course congress would have to pass such fines, so this is an exercise that would never happen.

But the fines would have to be enough to get the attention of multi-millionaires and billionaires. So let's say $100,000 per day? and it wouldn't come out of their future pay but must be paid up front.

That is a very incomplete proposal, but personal money is all Republicans care about.

[MichMan]

3. Does anyone who is furloughed because of a shutdown receive back pay once it is settled?

[bottomofthehill]

6. Federal employees yes, federal contractors, no

[Think. Again.]

4. I'm curious...

...are House and Senate members paid by the federal govt or by their respective state governments?

If they're on federal payroll, why isn't their pay furloughed like every other federal employee?

[bottomofthehill]

7. Federal employees

Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution, Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. Basically the Constitution says they get paid.

[Think. Again.]

8. Thanks!

[bottomofthehill]

11. Along with the Constitution

We the people passed the 27th Amendment saying loosely that any change in members of congress pay status does not take affect until the next congress so even though this congress did not get its work done, they can not sanction pay until the next congress

[Think. Again.]

15. Thanks...

...I suspect that when that was written into an amendment, we were thinking of pay raises so congress couldn't just give themselves raises easily.

I don't think we were referring to the scheduling of paycheck disbursement, but maybe?

[Ms. Toad]

20. Neither of the responses you received

Address the timing of pay. Even though their pay can't be altered, I don't see any barrier to furloughing it, the same as any other federal employee. They would get their full part once the government reopens, just like every other federal employee.

[FBaggins]

27. Timing isn't really an issue unless you're living paycheck to paycheck

Few in Congress fit that description. And the ones that do are probably more likely to be on our side.

[emulatorloo]

9. Stop paying Republicans. Dems wanna work and solve problems.

[snowybirdie]

12. I do.lime

the idea of finding Congress critters $1,000 A day. Won't hurt them probably, but at least they'll have some push back!

[JohnSJ]

13. You really think Congress will approve that?

[keithbvadu2]

14. When you can approve your own pay and benefits, it becomes more obvious how much more you truly dese

When you can approve your own pay and benefits, it becomes more obvious how much more you truly deserve.

[moonshinegnomie]

17. my proposal (which would require a ned amendment)

if there is a shutdown congress's pay gets reduced by 2 days pay for every day of teh shutdown
after 2 weeks of a shutdown the terms of all congressmen and senators end on january 1 of teh next year meaning they all have to run for relection
after 1 month not only do their terms end but they are ideclered neleigible to run for or hold and federal office or position for 6 years


want to bet there would never be a shutdown after that

[NewEnglandAutumn]

19. I wish we could sue them for failing to do their jobs!

They need to not get paid and should be required to stay in DC until they come up with a solution.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

21. According to Shalanda Young, paying them is constitutionally required.

So, that's not going to change.

She said it in response to a question about McCarthy saying he wouldn't take a salary. She said it was theater and that he had to be paid.

[Mosby]

22. Suspend their insurance coverage

Why should they get it if they're not doing their jobs?

That'll leave a mark, millionaire or not.

[Traildogbob]

23. If these assholes

Are intent on killing SS And Medicare, that WE earned by actually working, with them stopping work and shutting down the country? The nation’s entire work force should shut down the country until Congress and Senate benefits of cash and health care is ended for all Their retirees , current dead beats and future ones. How many young third wives will continue their benefits when those old white thieves die, on our dime, which they plan to steal the last one we have.
How many years will Melania be on our payroll after SS is robbed?

[Qutzupalotl]

24. I'd rather see us avoid shutdowns altogether.

We are the only country I'm aware of that has this crazy debt limit system. Our debts should not be questioned, period.

[mysteryowl]

25. Agreed, it is wrong and an embarrasment.

And hurts a lot of people and our country.

[Voltaire2]

29. This was not the debt ceiling nonsense.

There are two idiotic barriers to government funding.
The idiotic debt ceiling law requires congress to increase the ceiling to allow the treasury to issue new bonds to finance already approved budgets. That was the previous clown show. This clown show was to pass a ‘continuing resolution’ in lieu of an actual budget to keep funding government operations based on the last budget.

Both processes open a path for hostage taking by a party uninterested in responsible governance, as we have seen repeatedly by the Republican Party since the Gingrich era. Both should be done away with. The debt ceiling law should be repealed. A new law should be enacted that automatically funds the government at the prior budget levels absent a new budget being enacted, abolishing the need for continuing resolutions, and forcing congress to use the normal budget process to change funding priorities and policies.

[GreenWave]

26. MTG had $11MM before Congress

Not on list?

Gaetz family also has moolah out the wazoo.

MSM constantly fails to mention this. THEIR attempts to shut down the government does not affect THEM personally.

[thesquanderer]

28. Bills to do this have been introduced, but they never pass.

Which is kind of astounding because, as has been mentioned, most of the people in congress are so wealthy, it wouldn't even matter to them, so you might think they'd approve it just to demonstrate their commitment and "sacrifice" to their constituents.