Ari just said polls are not reliable this far out, then presents a collection of people

[JohnSJ]

criticizing Biden from his age to James Carville saying that Biden will lose to trump because of his age.

Then Ari says, if you are of the school where you don’t want to hear reality, then turn me off.

So that is what I did, and frankly I don’t care to watch him again.

That the MSM is so obsessed with Biden’s age, as though just choosing someone under 60 against trump will automatically be a 55% win for Democrats, as though that is the only thing that matters to people.

I would argue the economy, immigration, abortion, voting rights, civil rights, climate change, oil prices, interest rates have more of a bearing on the election than the media obsession with age.

They are doing to Biden, in a similar way that they did to Hillary

[Hope22]

1. That segment was disgusting!

Enough said!

[Recycle_Guru]

2. they are linear TV shit kickers. they'll all have podcasts soon

don't listen to those morons

[agingdem]

3. I so don't give a damn what James Carville has to say...

and Ari is morphing in "both sides' Chuck Todd...

[JohnSJ]

5. He sure is, and Carville and misogynistic Maher are pushing the same garbage

[whathehell]

4. Thanks for the warming...

I usually watch him..I'll pass tonight.

[bigtree]

6. complete sham

...they're just making it obvious now.

He spent 2 minutes on the breaking news that a former president has been convicted, along with his sons, of fraud.

He's spent hours on Hunter Biden, despite zero connection to the President.

[3Hotdogs]

7. The age of one, vs. the evil insanity of the other.

You choose.

[emulatorloo]

8. Curious, what magic youthful unicorn candidate is ole man Carville promoting?

[JohnSJ]

10. Any generic younger candidate

[emulatorloo]

14. That figures. Thank you.

[Celerity]

30. In this video, he mentions multiple ones: Josh Shapiro, Raphael Warnock, Wes Moore,

Andy Beshear, Gretchen Whitmer, Pete Buttigieg, Jared Polis, Gavin Newsom, Amy Klobuchar, and J. B. Pritzker.

Those are the ten I remember.

I have heard him say multiple times that Harris cannot win a general election, but cannot recall if he says that here.

[Demsrule86]

42. None of those mentioned will win the states we need. You primary a president and you lose.I

It is always true. And anyone who tries is finished politically.

[Celerity]

43. he was not just talking about 2024, FWIW

[Rebl2]

41. Have never

liked Carville. He’s a loud mouth know it all.

[Elessar Zappa]

9. The media want a horse race.

They don’t seem to give a damn that if Trump wins, they’ll be the first he comes for.

[LiberaBlueDem]

21. Horse race

Means more ad money.

Media is all about money so they can pay their talking heads buckoo bucks. And the heads love their trumpee taxbreaks!

[LiberalFighter]

11. When was the last time Carville has worked a campaign?

[JohnSJ]

13. Clinton of corse, and then married Cheney supporter Mary Matalin

[LiberalFighter]

20. And don't believe he has done anything since.

[JohnSJ]

23. I agree, except appears as an expert on talk shows

[LiberalFighter]

25. Trying to suggest what happened in 1992 and 1996 is the same as now.

Ari must have trouble getting reputable guests on his show.

[Celerity]

32. Hillary Clinton in 2008 and 2016 (mostly unofficially in 2016), then Michael Bennet in 2020.

[MontanaMama]

45. Carville trotted out the "Biden is old" trope

on Ari a couple weeks ago. Ari said nothing, of course. When another guest mentioned Carville’s comment during another interview about a week later and called it a RW talking point, Ari had a come apart about it. So stupid.

[ananda]

12. It's been awhile, but I don't remember Ari as...

being that bad.

Geez

[JohnSJ]

15. Devil's advocate?

[BigmanPigman]

16. Oh shit. I heard that and turned it off immediately.

I said out loud to myself, "Thank you, I will do just that" and switched to Seinfeld and Yada yada yada.

I was busy cooking with the TV on in the background and didn't switch stations ASAP when his show came on which I normally do. I can't stand him!!!!! I had to stop my kitchen prep, wash my hands and switch to Seinfeld.

MSNBC, get rid of him!!!!! There are a zillion others news hosts who would do a 100% better job.

[JohnSJ]

18. I was disappointed also.

[BonnieJW]

55. I don't like him either

I watch something else when Ari comes on

[senseandsensibility]

17. Thanks for the warning

I've never liked Ari too much anyway, but this sounds absolutely disgusting.

[JohnSJ]

19. At least that segment. Didn't quite understand why he started the segment how polls are not

accurate this far out, and that is why they don’t tout them, then throws excerpts from critics of Biden to Kornaci(sic) to Carville

At least he said if you don’t want to hear it, turn me off

[T_A]

22. Not To Mention

a lot of these polls are over-sampled Repubs, AND are over-sampled rural voters, who are over-weight Repubs.

[Silent Type]

24. Jeeesus, we are bashing Carville now.

[JohnSJ]

26. He is bashing and undermining Biden. Do you have a problem with that?

[Silent Type]

27. Sorry, I don't bash good Democrats when they occasionally say something I don't like.

[JohnSJ]

28. It is more than disagreement. He is predicting if Biden is the nominee we will lose, and

he has been making the rounds pushing that crap.

[Silent Type]

29. Don't think he is doing it to purposely hurt Democratic Party. I suspect he really

is concerned.

[JohnSJ]

46. Fair enough

[FemDemERA]

31. "They are doing to Biden, in a similar way that they did to Hillary"

This.

[JohnSJ]

33. At least it seems to be more negative coverage of Biden is occurring than positive coverage, I

suspect to give the impression of fairness with theproblems of trump, but the problem I think happens when they compare, or repeat republican talking points, comparing trump issues with accusations against Biden, that have no evidence behind them.

[MacKasey]

34. How about interviewing people who say Biden not too old

You know if Ronald Reagan was still alive and over 100, Republicans would vote for him saying how good he looks

[brooklynite]

35. I find it interesting that many people here spend multiple hours watching cable news....

...much of that content consisting of opinions, and then get offended with an opinion they don't like.

I, for one, will never want to live in a bubble of voices I agree with.

[JohnSJ]

36. Do you watch Fox News?if you do then you are a stronger person than me. It isn't good for my BP

[ProfessorGAC]

37. My Issue With The Age Thing

TFG will be 78 in '24.
Biden was not yet 78 when he won in '20.
So, TFG will actually be older on election day in 2024 than Biden was election day 2020.
Yet, this simple comparison doesn't seem to get discussed.
Exactly how old is too old? Is it 79? That would be awfully arbitrary.

[JohnSJ]

38. That is hardly ever brought up

[Daylily]

39. I'm voting Biden/HARRIS

Should President Biden be unable to complete his term, we have a capable experienced leader to step in. Age isn’t a problem for me. Tired of all the naysayers when I don’t hear half as much about T**** and his age and ignorance.

[JohnSJ]

40. Well said

[pazzyanne]

53. Excellent!!!

Welcome to DU, Daylily.

[SpamWyzer]

44. But Biden

has 4 years of success to showcase. He will be President #47. I assure you. I do not care what the media says since MOST people no longer believe a word they say.

[SpamWyzer]

47. President Jimmy Carter

who served very long ago, is still sharp, funny and in control of his rapidly aging senses at 99 years of age. If you really believe Biden is "too old" then you are just being an ageist. Biden is going to win and I know that talking about his age is just another idiotic distraction. MSM can go fuck off. WE WON'T BE FOOLED AGAIN!!! and maga has no power anymore. I am, laughing and dancing because of what I know. LOL

[JohnSJ]

48. +++

[Marthe48]

49. I shut him at at the same time

You can tell ari is levelheaded. The BS pours out of both sides of his mouth. He isn't the only one, but if he can't support President Biden on MSNBC, then he should move to another network.

It doesn't do a bit of good to watch a single network to get a liberal iteration of the news, and get thinly disguised rw rhetoric. A broadcast like this one only reinforces the rw talking points that President Biden isn't a good choice to run, even for a second term. As far as I'm concerned, President Biden is a beacon leading us out of the darkness caused by traitor and his henchmen.

[Rhiannon12866]

50. My cousin, vehemently anti-TFG, said this to me yesterday

And I replied that President Biden is the president for this perilous time. With 36 years in the Senate and 8 years in the Executive Branch, he is the most experienced president in our history - and he was chosen by Obama for his foreign policy experience, and we need him and his unprecedented experience now.

[pazzyanne]

54. + 1 nt

[ancianita]

51. Yeah. He said if he's going to offend anyone with 'truth talk,' to turn him off, so I did.

I'm just boycotting Ari until he gives up this corporate angle on Biden. Being a lawyer doesn't give him the right to pretend objectivity when he ignores any objective standards about Biden. Who he factually, objectively KNOWS is the best president of his lifetime.

[Cheezoholic]

52. This is why I like Ari, he's not going to spoon feed people what they want to hear

Like it or not there's quite a few democrats leery of Bidens age. It's part of the news, sorry but it is. It's better to see it, hear it, and face it than it is to stick the head in the sand. I bet those on here that are old enough were screaming at the top of their lungs Raygun was way too old when they were 40 years younger. I've seen people on here refuse to watch Ari because he references rap lyrics. Thats just stupid. I am concerned about his age but not because he cant do the job, the man has served his entire life. He deserves his golden years. Flame away.....

[rainy]

56. I turned him off for that same reason! So infuriating!

[Sky Jewels]

57. Fucking James Carville! That guy is ALWAYS wrong!

Why is he still around?!

[TSExile]

58. Ari is...

...easily my least favorite of the MSNBC "prime time" hosts. Time was, it was his tired old "middle aged guy trying desperately to stay hip by constantly quoting rap lyrics" shtick that made me hit the mute button. Now, it's so much worse.

I still record his show, but FF through about 98% of it - depends on the guest(s). Someone like Mehdi Hasan would be sooooo much better in that time slot!!!