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sheshe2

(94,301 posts)
Sat Sep 9, 2023, 08:08 PM Sep 2023

John F. Kennedy on the Separation of Church and State (1960)

… Because I am a Catholic, and no Catholic has ever been elected President, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured—perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again—not what kind of church I believe in, for that should be important only to me—but what kind of America I believe in.

I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute—where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote—where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference—and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish—where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source—where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials—and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.

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Finally, I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end—where all men and all churches are treated as equal—where every man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice—where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind—and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their works in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.

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The division of church and state.

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John F. Kennedy on the Separation of Church and State (1960) (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2023 OP
We have plenty of religious leaders who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #1
Yes, I am aware of that. sheshe2 Sep 2023 #2
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. 2naSalit Sep 2023 #3
*Looks at Supreme Court* Xolodno Sep 2023 #4

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
1. We have plenty of religious leaders who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America.
Sat Sep 9, 2023, 08:15 PM
Sep 2023

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

2naSalit

(98,076 posts)
3. I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute.
Sat Sep 9, 2023, 11:21 PM
Sep 2023

That is what I heard in school from day one on through grad school. What's different now is that some religions aren't happy with that. They want to take our freedom from us using "faith" as a weapon... as if it isn't one already.

They should not have a special tax status that gives them advantages others don't have in the political arena. Their status is contingent upon their neutrality in politics but they have violated that and now must be stripped of that privilege since they can't seem to respect it's intent.

Xolodno

(7,202 posts)
4. *Looks at Supreme Court*
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 01:47 AM
Sep 2023

Wish some of them adopted that.

A certain Flynn stated that there should be one Xtian religion here in the USA for the USA to be Xtian. My ancestors left a country over a century ago to escape that specific "policy". People should be shitting bricks at what is being proposed, instead, many welcome it. Should that ever happen (and it can), I'm fucking out of here. I know what the results are from those who passed down what they went through. So yeah, fuck that, I'm out of here.

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