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EarlG

(23,208 posts)
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:41 AM Sep 2023

PSA: What you need to know about the DU4 beta test

Last edited Wed Sep 6, 2023, 12:23 PM - Edit history (1)

A lot of folks have questions about DU4 and I'm happy to answer them, but there are a couple of problems: 1) I'm having to answer the same questions repeatedly, and 2) Questions are being posted all over the place making them harder to keep track of.

This short post is intended to give you some quick info and pointers so you can best help us with the test.

What you need to know right now

This is an unfinished version of the DU4 software. There will be bugs, and you will find things that don't work, or look wrong, or are missing, or are in the wrong place.

The purpose of this ongoing test is so we can learn about and then try to fix any technical or general issues DU members are having.

  • The DU4 Bug Reports forum, for reporting technical issues, can be found at Navigate > Help & Search.

  • The DU4 Questions & Answers forum -- for general Q&A, no bug reports please -- can be found in the same location.
If you can't find something you're looking for, there's a reason that it's moved. Feel free to ask about it. If there's something you need -- a missing feature, an improvement to something -- again, feel free to ask about it.

You should definitely read this if you haven't already. It contains a lot of useful information.

Edited to add: There is also a full feature list here!

DU4 is designed to be customizable. If you don't like the way something looks, you might find a setting to improve it by going to My Stuff > Account Settings. There are a number of visual options that you can change. If you can't find the answer there, ask about it in DU4 Questions & Answers and we might be able to come up with a solution.

Finally, my advice is just explore. All of the pages that you have on DU, like your My Posts page, your Bookmarks, Profile, Inbox, Journal, etc. etc. -- all exist on DU4, and they shouldn't be difficult to find. The Latest page, forums, threads -- the core of DU -- has not changed at all. What you will find if you explore, however, are some new pages and features we've included. Don't be afraid to just look around and kick the tires, or, you know, click the buttons.

I don't mind answering questions in this thread, but if you do have a question, you might want to check out the Questions & Answers forum first to see if it's been asked and answered already. And if you have a bug report, please use the Bug Reports forum.

Thanks!
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PSA: What you need to know about the DU4 beta test (Original Post) EarlG Sep 2023 OP
Can this be pinned to the top? question everything Sep 2023 #1
I may pin it a little later EarlG Sep 2023 #3
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2023 #2
Kick... AKwannabe Sep 2023 #4
K&R Drum Sep 2023 #5
Thanks for posting this. herding cats Sep 2023 #6
LOL - that annoyed me too! Nittersing Sep 2023 #7
My biggest issue was it was constantly going off due to my subscribed forums. herding cats Sep 2023 #10
That's been my only issue so far, too! yardwork Sep 2023 #18
Pinning would be good. planetc Sep 2023 #8
Thanks, Boss! Maeve Sep 2023 #9
Recommend sheshe2 Sep 2023 #11
Thanks for all the hard work orangecrush Sep 2023 #12
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2023 #13
Thank you for all your work on this!!! CaptainTruth Sep 2023 #14
K&R! greatauntoftriplets Sep 2023 #15
Since this is a beta site, can you make it easier to report bugs? Maybe a link on the navigation page? 33taw Sep 2023 #16
Kick! MLAA Sep 2023 #17
K&R ! stonecutter357 Sep 2023 #19
Thanks, Earl! yardwork Sep 2023 #20
K&R highplainsdem Sep 2023 #21
K&R PatSeg Sep 2023 #22
Kick hlthe2b Sep 2023 #23
Thanks EarlG malaise Sep 2023 #24
very important to go explore and have a growth mindset Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #25
DU 4 looks amazing...thanks for all the hard work...nt MiHale Sep 2023 #26
K&R gademocrat7 Sep 2023 #27
Kickety Kick. I looked at it for a few minutes yesterday. Like it so far! ms liberty Sep 2023 #28
agree! people are still getting used to that, I bet Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #29
I'm not seeing anyone else with the issue I'm having... Ohio Joe Sep 2023 #30
I'm not sure if this is a bug, but copied link doesn't stay live. LAS14 Sep 2023 #31
The "TOP" buttons after each and every post don't seem very useful Shermann Sep 2023 #32
May I suggest that you pin this thread to the top of DU senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #33
Too much white space gristy Sep 2023 #34
It would be helpful if EarlG Sep 2023 #36
I'm seeing the same thing. GP6971 Sep 2023 #39
I went to "My Stuff" and selected "Account Settings" dflprincess Sep 2023 #40
Am I the only one who came here to read about the latest covid varient⁉️ AlGorerhythm Sep 2023 #35
Bookmarking lpbk2713 Sep 2023 #37
K&R bdamomma Sep 2023 #38
Bless you EarlG for moniss Sep 2023 #41
❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2023 #42
My first post in DU4! hibbing Sep 2023 #43
I get a pop up Old Crank Nov 2023 #44

question everything

(51,157 posts)
1. Can this be pinned to the top?
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:51 AM
Sep 2023

I know I posted questions in several places and appreciate you catching one and responding.


herding cats

(19,857 posts)
6. Thanks for posting this.
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:20 AM
Sep 2023

I like the new format. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but once I figured out how quell the flashing "My Stuff" button I was happy as can be with it!

The hard work is very much appreciated from both you and Elad on this upgrade.

Nittersing

(7,734 posts)
7. LOL - that annoyed me too!
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:26 AM
Sep 2023

I went with the option that just puts a little yellow flag... no flashing!

herding cats

(19,857 posts)
10. My biggest issue was it was constantly going off due to my subscribed forums.
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:32 AM
Sep 2023

I removed them from the equation and peace was restored to my DU world again.

I'm sure I'll need to do a bit more tweaking here and there to get things perfect for me, but that's the fun of personalizing the new layout.

Maeve

(43,311 posts)
9. Thanks, Boss!
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:31 AM
Sep 2023

Like others, I wasn't sure how I liked the changes at first, but found it was all improvement as I got used to it. Much easier navigating on my phone, so I'm here more than ever.

33taw

(3,246 posts)
16. Since this is a beta site, can you make it easier to report bugs? Maybe a link on the navigation page?
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 11:05 AM
Sep 2023

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
25. very important to go explore and have a growth mindset
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 12:29 PM
Sep 2023

what seems unfamiliar and difficult today will be second nature after a few days of trying

ms liberty

(10,704 posts)
28. Kickety Kick. I looked at it for a few minutes yesterday. Like it so far!
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 03:06 PM
Sep 2023

Love the reccing replies feature. We've been wanting that for forever now!

Ohio Joe

(21,896 posts)
30. I'm not seeing anyone else with the issue I'm having...
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 03:28 PM
Sep 2023

I'm on Windows 11 and using Edge and when I go to DU4, everything is squished over to the left. Trying to read posts, they come up with at best one word per line. The entire middle and right side are just blank white space.

LAS14

(15,351 posts)
31. I'm not sure if this is a bug, but copied link doesn't stay live.
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 05:03 PM
Sep 2023

When I copied the link in your PSA: What you need to know... labeled "DU 4 Bug Reports," and pasted it into a DU 3 post, it was no longer a live link.

Shermann

(8,975 posts)
32. The "TOP" buttons after each and every post don't seem very useful
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 05:31 PM
Sep 2023

If you ditch those and move the "ALERT" buttons down, you can cut those footer sizes in half and fit more posts on one screen. Those footers are a bit wasteful of vertical screen real estate in my opinion (the headers are a bit oink-oinky too).

senseandsensibility

(24,015 posts)
33. May I suggest that you pin this thread to the top of DU
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 06:13 PM
Sep 2023

I think people will need to see it for quite a while.

gristy

(10,719 posts)
34. Too much white space
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 06:15 PM
Sep 2023

1. On the home page there is too much white space on the left and on the right. AKA really wide margins. Use the entire screen that Apple and Samsung give you!

2. There is about 2x the white space between posts on the home page.

End result is I can see fewer posts at the same time (on the home page, anyways) and I'm stuck scrolling before I should need to. Bleh.

EarlG

(23,208 posts)
36. It would be helpful if
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 07:12 PM
Sep 2023

you could tell me what kind of device you're using, and what OS and browser. If possible, email a screenshot of the problem to earlg@democraticunderground.com

Thanks.

GP6971

(36,920 posts)
39. I'm seeing the same thing.
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:56 PM
Sep 2023

Only seeing 5-6 threads on DU4.

Using Windows 10 and Firefox.

dflprincess

(29,046 posts)
40. I went to "My Stuff" and selected "Account Settings"
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:21 PM
Sep 2023

Then I selected "Skinner Mode". That took care of a lot of the white space in both the titles of posts & in the the posts themselves.

But then I lose some of the new stuff I liked in the display (but it seems it can still be found and used)

hibbing

(10,474 posts)
43. My first post in DU4!
Thu Sep 7, 2023, 12:37 AM
Sep 2023

I'll have to see if I can figure out what version I started on. It is taking me a bit to get the navigation down, but that will happen.
Thanks for all the hard work.

Peace

Old Crank

(6,299 posts)
44. I get a pop up
Sun Nov 19, 2023, 06:34 PM
Nov 2023

everytime I go to a new page. It is about cookies. I click on the accept all large green button and it goes away. But every time I move to another page it shows up again.
HP laptop Win 11. I'm in Germany if that helps.



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