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NEW YORK. Indicted freshman Congressman George Santos (R) appears to be negotiating a plea deal with federal prosecutors. That means a likely special congressional election by Spring 2024...

Get this piece of shit scumbag out of our sight.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)The doj won't get involved in politics like that.
They will just drop terms on him that will hurt. How badly it remains to be seen.
brush
(61,033 posts)That must mean vacating the seat is part of the ongoing discussions.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)That once he pleads guty and enters prison, he will resign his seat and a special election will be held.
The doj doesn't have the power to compel him to resign. He could refuse to and the house would have to vote to expel him.
brush
(61,033 posts)Santos wants to stay out of jail and is not in the strongest position to refuse to vacate.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)As part of his plea agreement.
That would set the magats in the house on fire, not to mention tfg.
I really doubt they will go there.
Instead, they will insist on some amount of jail time and let the house sort it out. They really don't care if he resigns or not as long as he pleads guilty and serves some time.
brush
(61,033 posts)It'll all be very discrete.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)In what universe?
It's he who will get up and bark, not the doj.
brush
(61,033 posts)getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)Under seal? In federal court?
Hoo boy. That's a new one. At least outside of juvie.
Eugene
(66,461 posts)The ability of an officeholder to offer resignation as part of plea deal is one of the perks of being an officeholder.
It is being floated as a compromise in bringing MF45 to justice.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)And it is unlikely that agreeing to never run again would sway jack Smith or fanni Willis, or either of the nys prosecutors.
It just isn't plausible as a way to mitigate 91 felony charges.
Any plea deal has to include st least some felony convictions, and some jail time. Otherwise go to trial.
He isn't on a fast track to another presidency. Nobody needs that kind of deal.
Trumpdumper
(199 posts)In Spiro Agnew's case, he agreed to the terms, the DOJ laid out, including resigning from office. No deal otherwise.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)Agnew was a real and present danger to the country if he stayed in office, and would be president and untouchable.
Santos not so much.
lastlib
(26,846 posts)I'm fairly certain they have done it with others (can't cite an instance off the top of my head, tho. Wilbur Mills, maybe?)
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)That would be completely inappropriate.
The DoJ doesn't decide who runs for office, nor do we want them to.
getagrip_already
(17,782 posts)And at least one felony conviction.
I'd hate to see him slither back to the house without having to serve any time.
PJMcK
(24,292 posts)I think I've read that in order to qualify for a Congressional pension, one has to serve 3 terms in the House. Santos made a statement earlier where he indicated that the pension was a major reason for his decision to run for office.
It would be very nice if Santos cannot get the pension. It doesn't seem right that we taxpayers would have to pay for his lies.
brush
(61,033 posts)vacating the seat, he won't win re-election and will thus be just a one-term bad memory.
usonian
(21,321 posts)Except on days ending in "y"
malaise
(290,020 posts)You criminsl piece of shit
Botany
(75,511 posts)I might be wrong but I think he is gonna disappear soon.
Golden Raisin
(4,741 posts)And disqualified for running for any government post.
gab13by13
(30,047 posts)and gets a special prosecutor. I say do the same, don't be partisan, appoint a special counsel for DeVolder.
Bmoboy
(555 posts)He could resign as part of the deal (like Agnew) but still run again.
DOJ cannot disqualify someone who meets the requirements as set out by the individual states.
struggle4progress
(124,827 posts)By Hunter Walker
September 5, 2023 11:51 a.m.
The U.S. attorney prosecuting the case against freshman Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) has indicated they are involved in discussions on how to resolve the case. However, in a series of texts to TPM, Santos insisted those talks have nothing to do with a potential plea deal on charges related to his campaign finances and false statements he made in official filings.
On Tuesday, U.S. Attorney Breon Peace filed a letter to the presiding judge in the case requesting to move a planned status conference from Thursday to Oct. 27. Peace said he was making the request jointly with Santos and his attorneys while they reviewed the evidence and engaged in further discussions ...
Requests such as these are often an indication of ongoing plea negotiations. However, in a series of texts to TPM, Santos called the suggestion the prosecutor is working on a plea agreement with his counsel wildly inaccurate and angrily suggested they are finding another path forward.
Youre a real hack of a reporter, Santos wrote. Please do not contact me any longer or I will deem your unsolicited communication as harassment ...
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/george-santos-insists-he-is-not-working-on-a-plea-deal
Well, there you have it! And right from the mouth of Santos! He couldn't say it if it wasn't true, could he?
RandySF
(78,114 posts)struggle4progress
(124,827 posts)What, never?
Well, hardly ever!
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Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)qualifies for the upper tier of justice.
mgardener
(2,191 posts)Elise Stefanik R NY21 endorsed, supported and held fund raisers for him.
SHE STILL HAS NOT DENOUNCED HIM