I think we should consider two possibilities regarding Motherfucker

[Aviation Pro]

1. He tries to flee without his Secret Service detail. Unfortunately, and sucks to be him, the range on Motherfucker 1 is a little less than 4000 nautical miles or 4490 statute miles, which means the aircraft would be running on fumes before it could reach a safe, fascist nation (Hungary, Viktor Orban's slice of paradise). Also unfortunately for the walking embodiment of a colostomy bag, the aircraft can't fly 'under the radar' and get that range, which means a flight plan needs to filed and with the aircraft in the system and tracked by ATC, you can bet a fat man to a skinny mule that it will get an unexpected escort from a couple of F-16s back to the U.S. before it hits international airspace. And no flight crew would be willing to risk a Sidewinder up their APU no matter who's banging on the flight deck door.

2. He shucks his mortal coil. I give exactly zero fucks how 'robust' (high on Adderall) the shitbag thinks he is. He's a 77-year-old obese, out-of-shape bag of fuck with a penchant for shit food that he eagerly shovels down his gullet. Add the stress of a cascade of indictments and to me it's even odds he's going to take a dirt nap soon.

If I'm a betting man, I'd wager the second possibility is on the table before the first.

[BigMin28]

1. You sure know

how to turn a phrase.

[Grasswire2]

3. yes, that was beautiful writing. nt

[vlyons]

2. Yeah he can't leave the US. So I opt for #2

No pilot is going to jail for helping him to flee.

At 77, his body is wearing out. It happens, I'm 76 with heart problems and my body is wearing out. Between his obesity and intense anger, his blood pressure must be sky high. If he's an adderall adict, he probably doesn't sleep so great. So add in anxiety.

[Disaffected]

56. Where am I going wrong here?

It is my understanding that he is (still) under no travel restrictions so, why can't he leave the US??

[vlyons]

60. Not certain he is free to leave USA

But he is required to show up for court dates. If he left the country and didn't show up, that is fleeing.

[Disaffected]

61. Of course but,

in the absence of travel restrictions, there would be nothing to stop him from fleeing even if that means missing court dates or anything else.

Anyhow, the same question remains - is he under travel restrictions, either within the US or beyond, or not??

[Captain Zero]

4. His plane could just crash too

At one time it wasn't well maintained and do you think he pays his mechanics well and on time? I doubt it.

[A HERETIC I AM]

45. It's got it's airworthiness certificate

And FWIW, he doesn’t have “his mechanics” that do any maintenance on it. Any and all work done on that plane is done by certified repair stations that have the know how to work on that type. And I absolutely guarantee that it does not leave any facility until the bill is paid in full.


Not a fan of the man by any stretch, but his 757 is in good working order, I’m sure.

[Shellback Squid]

5. we would never shoot down an aircraft he was fleeing in

[Aviation Pro]

7. Air Traffic Procedures, Section 6. National Security and Interception Procedures says otherwise

Failure to comply with an interception triggers several measures.

Link.

[Shellback Squid]

8. what several measures are there? I'm sure shooting down a plane is one but under

specific circumstances, there are innocents inside, not convicted of a crime

[Aviation Pro]

12. Yep, it would have to be ordered by someone way up the chain of command

POTUS would not give that order unless there was a grave risk to the country.

But the pilots wouldn't chance it and would comply with the interception.

[Silent Type]

6. #2 is my bet too. But, his public videos don't show that. Of course,

in private they might have him on oxygen to use the bathroom, have a double to walk to the long SUVs while he’s passed out in rear, etc.

[SKKY]

9. Not gonna lie, the shame of being exiled to another country...

...strikes me as particularly poetic. If he "kicks the oxygen habit", Biden and the Democrats will be blamed for all the undue stress "we caused" he poor little Big Mac-laden heart.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. Well, no need for Hair Force One. He can find a friendly Gulfstream oneway to Saudi Arabia

Spirit his ample avoirdupois from Bedminster to someplace like Teterboro. Spirit said avoirdupois, unmanifested, onto said Gulfstream and it's done.

I'll bet Melanoma will joyfully pack him a lunch for him.

[Aviation Pro]

11. Motherfucker doesn't have a G650 or G550, he has a limited range Citation X

If I'm the owner operator of a G650 or G550, he ain't getting it.

[Stinky The Clown]

18. I'm was thinking he can find a friendly who has one . . .

. . . . or some comparable airplane.

Someone like MBS, maybe.

For a bigger plane out on the ramp, put him in a high lift catering truck and let him board through the galley.

[Thunderbeast]

40. MBS flies his fugitive Saudu nationals out all the time

Remember my neighbor, Fallon Smart.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2022/06/the-saudis-and-fallon-smart-steve-duin-column.html%3foutputType=amp

[Wednesdays]

57. And Saudi Arabia is the #1 place I predict he'd flee to

FAR more likely than Russia.

Other places he'd run to would be other countries on the Arabian peninsula, especially Qatar and UAE. None of the above have extradition treaties with the U.S.

[lastlib]

26. ...with a polonium sammich from Vladdy-Daddy......

"Come back and contest the divorce now, shithead!"

[Sneederbunk]

13. Neither will happen and he will raise unimagineable hell before 24 Election.

[Aviation Pro]

14. Well, we'll see after tomorrow

When Judge Chutkan reads the shitbag the riot act or throws his wide backside in jail.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

15. Awesome post... thanks for the chuckle!! 😄

[taxi]

16. He is like the fool in a comedian's audience -

Somehow comedians find the one person without enough sense to keep quiet, the one who thinks he can win over the crowd. That's Trump. He doesn't see what's coming, like he was unable to see his current predicament coming. Is there any doubt that in his mind the outcome in any of the cases against him will be nothing more than words? That when the gavel drops his attorneys will close their briefcases and everyone will go home after drinks?

[essaynnc]

17. How do we prove it?

If option #2, how do we know he's passed, and not faking it to run away and live out his days in obscurity on an island somewhere?

But I guess for him, this might be a fate worse than anything else he could imagine, AND he'd be gone from our lives forever !

Now that I'm thinking about it though, that doesn't give closure to me or to 200 million fellow Americans....

[Iggo]

29. Sorry, I broke the rules there.

(I was trying to be funny, but it came out as a call to violence.)

[Septua]

19. Door #3

The funny farm...he's already mentally qualified, just needs someone to admit him.

I considered #1 but that probably would be hard to pull off. #2 does look most promising. The pics you see of him without the makeup do show the look of an unhealthy dude.

[rubbersole]

30. This is plausible.

Would work for his legal nightmare (that is going to get him)...ye ol' insanity defense. He is insane.

[Trueblue Texan]

20. I tend to agree with you on the 2nd possibility...

...something tells me, just as I knew he would never resign from office, or quit the race, he will never allow himself to go to prison. Nevertheless, I do think he'll be convicted of multiple imprisonable crimes.

[chowder66]

21. I think he's in narcissistic collapse right now but will recover

and continue what he does wherever he lands. Whether in jail, home confinement or on the run.

[Brainfodder]

22. 3rd option of him cowarding out needs SOME consideration?

I put him in the weakest coward tier, like one medium quality body blow and already bawling on the mat asking for oxygen when it was an exhibition match with OJ, both in 70's and one looking arguably gym ready vs. Spanx Favorite Client?

Absolutely gonna blink again and again IMHO and hopefully caught on camera at some point!!!

Is he the bestest most over confident arrogant twit on the planet?

Putting YOU on the line FOR HIM right now, discuss it with family and friends first please because NOW, highly likely death?
It's like Darwin Awards level DUMB AF!

At least they have words they over use so you can spot them easier in the wild, like WOKE and DERANGED for example.

[usonian]

23. Three. Putin knocks him off. Stairs, window, whatever.

He failed to cripple NATO, the "Putin Papers" that Barr and NcConnell kept wraps on are going to come out in court, and he's just plain incompetent at stealing/destroying documents and erasing tapes.

Outlived his usefulness and now a big liability.

Putin will delight in the conspiracy theories and turmoil.

[AllaN01Bear]

24. a friend of mine and i have been expecting him to flee for months as a flight risk.

but who would take the so and so? his handler , russia?

[Brainfodder]

55. Belarus maybe? If you were Pnut would you want this ALPHASS in your orbit?

He should have been held as flight risk by now, has that WTAF is up with him free vibe?

In some countries he'd just be shot, the end.

[Wednesdays]

58. Saudi Arabia. See posts #40 and #57, above. nt

[MrWowWow]

25. Range is 6800 Nautical Miles for MOFO-1

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/celebrity/article/3115500/donald-trumps-jet-set-life-are-outgoing-us-presidents?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article&campaign=3115500


That might be enuf for MoFo to flee to a fugitive-harboring country that will not extradite him to the U.S.

West Palm Beach to Saint Petersburg (Russia)
is 5296 nautical miles.


-->MoFo-1 has the range to get to St. Petersburg, Russia from West Palm Beach. Mofo should definitely be considered a flight risk.

[niyad]

27. TRAITOR** spends the summer at his club in NJ.

[speak easy]

32. Havana. 198 nautical miles from Miami.

[Angleae]

34. Range for "Air Force One" (the real one, aka VC-25) is 6800 nm , his 757 is 4100 nm.

[Orrex]

31. I have fantasized about his death for years, but...

As much as I'd like to see him stroke out on live tv, it will be better if he is tried, convicted, and sentenced first.

If he dies, the proceedings will lose their teeth. Sure, a bunch of underlings and flunkies will face some measure of justice, but the criminal in chief will have escaped legal consequences.

As such, any future reichwing fuckhead will feel free to try the same tactics, with the benefit of experience and the knowledge that consequences will be years away, if they ever occur.

So let Trump die a painful, humiliating death, but let that happen after the sentencing phase of the trial.

[Nasruddin]

33. No and No

He's not going anywhere. Who'd fly that plane? Besides, the US operates with more or less impunity everywhere in the world with 1 or 2 exceptions, & he cannot reach those places easily. He's much too much of a security risk to let run free.

He's not going to expire. In fact, even if his body dies, he will simply live on forever. What original stuff has he said in public
in years? They'll just replay the old images / deep fake him. Maybe a little animatronics for fun. The grift is too important.
Who says you can't elect a dead man - you just can't die in office. If you're already dead, you're home free!

Anyway, one thing he said is right - he probably has very good genes. He will probably outlive most of us.

And a third no - he's not going to any psych or dementia ward. I gave up on that comforting fairy tale a long time ago.
He may have a brain unlike any other, but he knows what he's doing.

[tinrobot]

35. #1, but he's smuggled out in a piano case or something (like Carlos Ghosen)

He doesn't have to fly on MF-1, there are other forms of transportation.

[C Moon]

36. I think the case will continue, but he'll try to stall, make claims about unfairness, etc.

And try to get the Supreme Court involved. Suggest riots.

[Warpy]

37. Motherfucker 1 would take to the air and shut off the transponder

within fairly short order. The problem is that he'd probably have to land for refueling before it got to the UAE, they don't have an extradition treaty, they aren't part of NATO, and they do have golf, lots of golf. Plus, he'd be in great company (for him), it's where a lot of dictators have fled rather than face the music, along with that president of Afghanistan who took most of the treasury with him.

He is more likely to stay here and dare the government to jail him, even once it becomes clear his cult is allbluster and little action. He will spend down his fortune keeping his money losing golf courses beyond all reason and trying to stay out of prison. He will die of Alzheimer's, most likely.

[Aviation Pro]

43. Which means that it wouldn't be tracked on secondary radar

Primary radar would still paint the target and there are other more sophisticated means to accurately pinpoint where it is without a transponder signal interrogation.

[Warpy]

59. They'd track it, but long after the fact. I doubt anyone would be watching for it

You know, "he wouldn't be that stupid and we lifted all his passports." You know John Barron has at least one passport parked with a crooked lawyer who's still speaking to him.

They'd trace him to the UAE maybe a month later. Maybe they'd cooperate, maybe they wouldn't. My money's on the latter.

[Disaffected]

38. This discussion has been had here before.

At least the one about him flying off to some friendly country. Is he still under no travel restrictions? If so, he can travel wherever he wants and with no fear of reprisals let alone preventing him from taking off etc.

And I find it very hard to believe that his plane would be shot down under any realistic circumstances.

[Duppers]

41. +1 - His his plane would NOT be shot down.

That's

[Aviation Pro]

42. Reread my comments

The pilots would not risk it and comply with the interception procedures.

Inferring the plane will be shot down from my statement is the cuckoo face.

[Duppers]

47. Was replying to DUer Disaffected above.

I don't know from where his/her assumption came.

[Aviation Pro]

48. All good, thanks

….

[Duppers]

49. Indeed. Thank you.

[Disaffected]

51. ??

If you were objecting to my comments, why the "+!"??

[Duppers]

52. Not at all. I was agreeing with you.

[Disaffected]

53. OK, thank you.

[Disaffected]

50. Inferring?

"And no flight crew would be willing to risk a Sidewinder up their APU no matter who's banging on the flight deck door."

That seems pretty much like an inference (and no-one said you said the plane "will" be shot down).

In any case, as I mentioned, is he not free to travel(?) and, if so, the entire debate is moot.

[OMGWTF]

39. Dying is the easy way out but hanging is too good for Traitor Tot.

[Sancho]

44. He probably has already threatened to give secrets to the Russians and Chinese...

...which are stashed in Ireland or God knows where - he has copies.

[Aviation Pro]

46. Leading me to believe that NSA has gotten a FISA warrant to monitor his overseas communication

Motherfucker wants his, "Top of the world, ma," moment.

Also, Saudis and UAE.

[scipan]

54. I think he will wait until just before the election before he flees

He won't give up on winning no matter what the odds. And he will probably be convicted, but appeal, and be out on bond or however it's done (conviction stayed?). And he will not stop campaigning until the last days.