Enough bullshit that we ignore rural areas and small towns
Fact is they get more Federal dollars and send in less tax revenue than Urban areas.
https://www.govtech.com/dc/articles/city-dwellers-bear-disproportionate-federal-tax.html#:~:text=The%20extra%20burden%20wouldn%27t%20be%20so%20excessive%20if,that%20cities%20send%20far%20more%20cash%20to%20Washington.
According to David Albouy, a University of Michigan economist, workers in expensive cities in the Northeast, Great Lakes and Pacific regions bear a disproportionate share of the federal tax burden, effectively paying 27 percent more in federal income taxes than workers with similar skills in a small city or rural area....
The extra burden wouldn't be so excessive if more federal tax dollars were returned to urban areas in the form of higher federal spending. But according to Albouy's research, that's not the case. His data show that more federal dollars are actually spent in rural areas, despite the fact that cities send far more cash to Washington. The net effect of all this is a transfer of $269 million from workers in high-cost areas to workers in lower cost rural areas in 2008 alone.
The constant bitching that we are forgetting rural America is so much tripe.
And let's not forget, in many States, the GOP has made sure their vote counts more than those in cities through gerrymandering.
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against and debunked more regularly.
Next election, idiocy about Democrats being out-of-touch coastal elites who despise working families and are bribed in wine caves by wealthy donors and billionaires is going to get nothing but laughter and 
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Give a shit what you do when you are in your urban world, it's when you come to rural places for vacation or whatever and the way the locals are treated by you out of towners is where we get the idea that we are looked down on. When people come here and expect that every person they encounter is their servant and should be thankful you came to throw them a dime...
And the wages in these places do not compare with what is earned in urban settings. You have no idea about what the employment scene is in the rural world so maybe you could look into that to get an idea about why there's a difference.
Describes the people I know out here in ruraland. When my friends and I go to town or a city, long drive but necessary on occasion, we actually are nice to the workers and tip well because we know what it's like to work for tips and deal with the tourist crowd. I have yet to see rural folks treat city people in the city like you describe and I have lived a good number of years in both settings.
I see that kind of crap on teevee when I bother to watch it. Sure, nobody is angelic but the disdain I hear from people who think I might not be one of "them" is appalling to say the least. We have a lot of the trophy home bunch as well as tourists crawling all over the place, they decide to come and buy a bunch of property up here and price we locals out of our homes, it's been going on for a while and people in this area are getting fed up about it. Why can't we buy land near us? because we don;t make shit for wages and then the cost of living keeps growing as if we were all making $20/hr when hardly anyone is getting more then $10... State minimum wage is like $8.50/hr. And we pay taxes regardless.
Next up, you'll be telling me how I have too many Senators in Congress... 3 ...2 ...
It's easy to compare them. Why?
Because most rural areas see tourists whether they are the destination or on the way there. Even if we aren't in the service industry, you'd be surprised by how many perceive us as such.
And I already have one Democratic Senator, used to have a Democratic governor too.
See, when it comes to elections, especially the ones so popular with the crowd who think I have too many Congress critters, is when national campaigns and their committees forget we exist except to complain about us and tell us that if only we would elect Democrats they would stop bitching about us. And why do we want to live in the country anyway?
But do they offer up any help in electing the desired candidates?
Hell no.
You know who was crawling all over this state for two years like a bad case of lice prior to 2016? Rumpers. All over the freaking state for two years campaigning and fundraising for that shitwad and his cult following. That's how we ended up a red state that used to be purple in 2016. They spent a lot of money ousting Democrats and it paid off for them.
So please, if you don't live in a rural place, don't try to tell me how it is out here where you don't live or vote and that I should try real hard to elect Democrats, it's really condescending and I find it offensive.
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Treatment. I don't care what you think of me unless what you think of me colors the tone with which you address me.
I live in a rural place so I am, according to many here on DU, and from the tone, the OP included, I should be treated with some kind of disdain because the political situation, which is not my fault, justifies such treatment. We don't have the same kind of economy here so let us starve or be excluded from benefits of a democratic society because we don't have as much money to contribute to the general fund.
But we have trees and minerals and forests that y'all come and extract from our area, you come here with your toys and rampage our forests and parks, throw trash all over the place. We grow your food but since we don't pay as much in taxes, we should starve and be shunned in numerous ways because we aren't whatever other people think we should be or should be doing.
I honestly don't get what you mean by your inability to see what I'm saying. You know what I mean, I mean, you know what I mean?
We are "shunning you," "letting you starve" and "excluding you from the benefits of democratic society," though the OP shows rural areas get a disproportionately large share of the common wealth.
The OP, which I think is absurd, for review (underlines for emphasis added):
Enough bullshit that we ignore rural areas and small towns
Fact is they get more Federal dollars and send in less tax revenue than Urban areas.
https://www.govtech.com/dc/articles/city-dwellers-bear-disproportionate-federal-tax.html#:~:text=The%20extra%20burden%20wouldn%27t%20be%20so%20excessive%20if,that%20cities%20send%20far%20more%20cash%20to%20Washington.
According to David Albouy, a University of Michigan economist, workers in expensive cities in the Northeast, Great Lakes and Pacific regions bear a disproportionate share of the federal tax burden, effectively paying 27 percent more in federal income taxes than workers with similar skills in a small city or rural area....
The extra burden wouldn't be so excessive if more federal tax dollars were returned to urban areas in the form of higher federal spending. But according to Albouy's research, that's not the case. His data show that more federal dollars are actually spent in rural areas, despite the fact that cities send far more cash to Washington. The net effect of all this is a transfer of $269 million from workers in high-cost areas to workers in lower cost rural areas in 2008 alone.
The constant bitching that we are forgetting rural America is so much tripe.
And let's not forget, in many States, the GOP has made sure their vote counts more than those in cities through gerrymandering.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218111299#top
So it's really only about the money, am I right?
I beg to differ. Far more people come to the rural areas to visit than live here, exponentially so, but how would you know that, you don't live in an area where that's a problem.
Next?
I mean "our" to mean what it implies, ours as in a collective of local residents, but oops, we aren't stacked on top of each other which means there aren't as many of us so we obviously don't count. Best to deflect and try to imply that I mean that I, personally, own and control these properties and resources. Honestly.
The majority of extraction that happens in urban settings is petroleum, those areas are already lost as biospheric brown fields. When's the last time you heard of someone taking a vacation to a brown field?
We have many more oil rigs out here but they are mostly out away from residential locations, out of sight, out of mind. You won't see most of the damage up close from the highway... yet.
I didn't say that I personally grow your food, but my neighbors do and when I worked I was in a support industry for a time, bringing the food from the farms and processors to a grocery chain near you... but why should I have to qualify my experience to you?
Not all food is grown by corporations, you know this, right? I mean, meat comes from animals, this is before their parts were wrapped in plastic. And vegetables come from the ground, a lot goes into putting the food into the plastic before it ends up on the shelf in the store. Most of the people who make that happen don't earn high wages. And the processing happens in rural places at least as much as it does in urban places.... oops, that might mean they can't contribute as much money in taxes.
People litter, I get that... the shit's everywhere after waves of them pass through, most of the trashiest are Americans. I'm not ignorant of the fact that people in general are trashy but when people choose to come to the wild places in our country to see its beauty, why do they trash it?
Not just the litter, they shoot at live trees, they come here to shoot guns in the woods not recognizing what they are shooting. They carve stupid shit into trees, throw trash in the lakes and rivers, like a dog pisses on a bush to claim it...? WTF is up with that? But do go on and take a rafting trip down a pristine river and because one of the rapids was a bit much for you, blow it up so that it works for you; don't like to fly fish, hell, bring your own bass/walleye and stock a different ecosystem with those in the middle of the night instead; the walmart was too far away, like you passed it on your way, so start a campaign to bring one to right outside the gate of the national park because planning ahead is for suckers; so what if you don't have bear spray while you're camping in a tent with your food where there's bears.
I mean...
You'd think some instinctual sense of self preservation would kick in at some elevation. Maybe it's lack of oxygen..? Do people not care to look at where they are going and recognize that it's not like going just around the corner or a web page on their communicator screen. They rely on GPS that doesn't work in the mountains, they get lost and complain that the road wasn't paved, it's endless. But we, the locals who will have to rescue them, will have to be super nice while risking our lives for theirs and not be judgy about how stupid they were for getting into a stupid and dangerous situation. But do carry on, it's not like educating the public is a thing anymore.
And I have spent a couple decades trying to educate the public and advocating for wildlife and OUR public lands when not many were paying much attention yet reap the benefits of the gains we made in our quest to slow the destruction of the biosphere, thank you very much. What did I get in return? A lot of back-handing and death threats from the rumpist-like crowd of locals and from politicians and people both rural and urban, telling me I was wrong and alarmist... we are seeing the fruits of failure to accept the message because they wasted so much time trying to kill the messengers so here we are, watching it all burn. When key ecosystems crash, like the one I've lived in and fought for over decades, it will be noticed everywhere. But c'mon down and bring your trash and fling it all around as you whizz by on your way to whatever you came to do and see, that is, if you can bother to look up from your phone... somebody who works for minimum wage will clean it up... not.
I am currently witnessing everything that I care about and fought so hard for being destroyed by careless humans, few of which are from around here, trashing it to oblivion... most of which belong to us, we the people. Kind of pisses me off.
Ummm, what?
My comment was based on an opinion I have fomented after decades of experience living, working and voting in cities, suburbs, towns and villages, big and small all over this country. I've worked in multiple realms from housekeeping to heavy equipment operation to policy analyst to employee at three different federal agencies and a restaurant cook among other work. I choose to live in a rural place because cities are more than I care to deal with, I prefer nature so I fight to protect it. Seems my fellow Americans aren't so keen on that part seeing how they treat it... first hand from all angles.
Also, Americans are notorious, worldwide, as trashy tourists.
In the past decade +, I have watched tourists go from inquisitive, if not naive, but mostly nice people from all over the globe to swarms of jerks looking to see how far they can push the limits of the interface of their understanding and the harsh reality of the natural world and the disconnect between that and fucking Bambi. I don't feel sorry for humans who get beat up by wildlife or get cooked in a hot spring with keep out signs.
The OP has a very negative tone toward rural Americans and I, being a long time rural, taxpaying American, am offended. Why? Because the author is only partially informed and making sweeping accusations which include me yet do not describe me. I object to their premise and suggested remedies because they are pejorative and incorrect.
Perhaps, if you believe in pretzelogic.
Thank you for your replies on this thread. I agree wholeheartedly.
It's small comfort for you and your neighbors, I realize. But the rural areas of PA (and other states) have been missing out on the digital boom for the last 30+ years.
President Joe Biden is trying to remedy that, but it's going to take a lot of work and $$. Democratic Governors are working hard on the problem too. I don't know whether the Repuke Governors are doing anything.
it probably means that the majority of Trump voters(75%) were in "urban/suburban" districts. But that's just the # of votes, not the percentage. Let's say the urban areas went for the D candidate 4 million to R 1 million. And the rural areas went for the R candidate 500,000 to 175,000. It's still a win for Dems at 4.175 mil to 1.5 mil... but the majority of the votes came from the Urban district. (I completely made up these numbers btw.)
a commercial from years ago with several "cowboys" sitting around a campfire eating salsa and one of them says, "This stuff's made in New York City!"
Then they all cry out: "New York City?!"
Then some asshole says: "Get a rope."
Funny, funny. 