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Hillary Clinton called it in 2016 (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 OP
'But her e-mails..." Aristus Jul 2023 #1
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #9
Hello! n/t GP6971 Jul 2023 #11
Third party and Trump voters have definitely entered the FO stage of FAFO. lapucelle Jul 2023 #2
RBG also warned voters. lapucelle Jul 2023 #3
Unfortunately, RBG didn't retire during Obama's presidency DeeDeeNY Jul 2023 #7
She could have done that and we'd still be facing a 5-4 Republican Supreme Court. W_HAMILTON Jul 2023 #8
It's astounding inthewind21 Jul 2023 #22
Ask Merrick Garland how that worked out for him MiniMe Jul 2023 #10
we controlled the Senate in the 113th Congress (2013-2015) Celerity Jul 2023 #12
Mitch still managed to stop Merrick MiniMe Jul 2023 #13
No, Garland was stopped because the Rethugs took back the Senate on January 3, 2015 Celerity Jul 2023 #14
Too Bad So Many Were Smearing Cha Jul 2023 #4
Yep republianmushroom Jul 2023 #5
yes, she did. And too many didn't listen. brer cat Jul 2023 #6
and yet not enough people voted for her to win the GE. SYFROYH Jul 2023 #15
Unfortunately her campaign failed to persuade voters in critical swing states. Voltaire2 Jul 2023 #16
I saw a quote from Bernie's wife saying it didn't matter who Nixie Jul 2023 #18
The buck stops here. Voltaire2 Jul 2023 #21
That somebody was Bernie's wife. Undermining our nominee Nixie Jul 2023 #25
Actually it was Harry Truman, a person who ran a successful campaign for president. Voltaire2 Jul 2023 #30
There were other people applying influence, though. Hillary Nixie Jul 2023 #31
Hillary failed? inthewind21 Jul 2023 #23
As if white swing state Trump voters were voting rationally for policy and Hillary just betsuni Jul 2023 #28
Also failed: Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, Gore, Kerry, Humphrey, Stevenson, McGovern. Voltaire2 Jul 2023 #29
Not Electing Hillary Clinton Was Our Biggest Mistake LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #17
This is exactly spot on. Nixie Jul 2023 #19
Hopefully more people have grown up and not believe an election is about one person. betsuni Jul 2023 #20
Campaigning in those swing states was so important n/t leftstreet Jul 2023 #24
So was fully supporting our nominee instead of undermining her. Nixie Jul 2023 #26
Here's the ACTUAL HRC tweet... WarGamer Jul 2023 #27

Aristus

(71,138 posts)
1. 'But her e-mails..."
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 02:22 PM
Jul 2023

"I just don't like her..."

"She stayed with Bill...'

I want to thank all of those bobbleheaded fuckweasels for their "concern".

Looks what it's done for us...

Response to Aristus (Reply #1)

lapucelle

(20,761 posts)
3. RBG also warned voters.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 02:26 PM
Jul 2023
“I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president,” she said. “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-no-fan-of-donald-trump-critiques-latest-term.html

DeeDeeNY

(3,842 posts)
7. Unfortunately, RBG didn't retire during Obama's presidency
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:10 PM
Jul 2023

In an interview after RBG's death, her daughter said that she waited to resign so that her successor could be appointed by Hillary Clinton.

W_HAMILTON

(9,706 posts)
8. She could have done that and we'd still be facing a 5-4 Republican Supreme Court.
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:49 PM
Jul 2023

But keep on blaming the dead for the stupid assed actions of the living -- some of which dared to call themselves progressive -- who apparently couldn't tell the difference between Hillary and Trump. Real good look.

MiniMe

(21,863 posts)
10. Ask Merrick Garland how that worked out for him
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jul 2023

There is no guarantee that Mitch would have let a justice get through

MiniMe

(21,863 posts)
13. Mitch still managed to stop Merrick
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:10 PM
Jul 2023

I think that was the "need 60 to pass cloture thing"

Celerity

(52,641 posts)
14. No, Garland was stopped because the Rethugs took back the Senate on January 3, 2015
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 06:49 PM
Jul 2023

and McTurtle refused to give him a vote in 2016. If RBG had stepped down in 2013 or 2014, we would have, if we had to, done another filibuster exception for SCOTUS (we had already done so for other POTUS nominees earlier). The Rethugs did the SCOTUS mini nuke themselves in early 2017 to confirm Neil Gorsuch after they had previously refused to take up Merrick Garland's nomination in 2016.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
16. Unfortunately her campaign failed to persuade voters in critical swing states.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 01:53 PM
Jul 2023

it really was a massive calamity.

Nixie

(17,869 posts)
18. I saw a quote from Bernie's wife saying it didn't matter who
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 10:50 PM
Jul 2023

you voted for as long as you voted. Now that was the massive calamity. Someone posted her quote in a recent thread — a great reminder of what that kind of attitude cost us. What has recently happened certainly isn’t progressive. Hillary warned us.

Nixie

(17,869 posts)
25. That somebody was Bernie's wife. Undermining our nominee
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 11:52 PM
Jul 2023

by suggesting it doesn’t matter if you vote for her is the reason we’re here discussing Donald trump’s Supreme Court instead of Hillary Clinton’s Supreme Court.

Nixie

(17,869 posts)
31. There were other people applying influence, though. Hillary
Wed Jul 5, 2023, 03:53 PM
Jul 2023

had to run against the far left and the right. So those people who undermined her also get a big buck stop. When you try to influence people against our nominee then this is the result. She warned us about the Supreme Court. No one else seemed to care about that. Now look at the damage.

Politics are sure different than when Truman ran for office. I’m sure George Washington and Abraham Lincoln also ran different campaigns.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
23. Hillary failed?
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 04:27 PM
Jul 2023

Seriously? I call bullshit! What's unfortunate, the absolute ignorance of how few in this country know how their own government works and depend on everyone BUT themselves to make their decisions for them. Guess what, Republicans count on that. And sad to say, it's a pretty safe bet for them. But go ahead, keep blaming it all on RBG or Hillary's "failure" or Russia or Fox of who/whatever is the blame of the day. Anyone or anything that lets the voters off the hook right? But, it won't change the FACT, we are where we are BECUSE of the voting and non voting public. Period!

betsuni

(28,464 posts)
28. As if white swing state Trump voters were voting rationally for policy and Hillary just
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 12:50 AM
Jul 2023

didn't 'splain things well enough, make enough populist promises, hold enough rallies for rural white people and explain hard enough at them. They vote for anti-immigration, culture wars, racial identity, this is well documented and it's completely wrong that Hillary ignored the swing states. We've discussed this many times with facts.

It's that populist myth that the majority of Trump/Republican voters will stop voting against their economic interests if you just tell them they are. Then they turn into democratic socialists. It's easy! You just have to have the right magical populist candidate. And of course this was proved wrong too.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
29. Also failed: Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, Gore, Kerry, Humphrey, Stevenson, McGovern.
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 03:57 PM
Jul 2023

In my lifetime all of the above ran a failed campaign for president. They failed to persuade enough people in critical states to vote for them. It would be ridiculous to instead blame the voters for failing to be persuaded.

Nixie

(17,869 posts)
19. This is exactly spot on.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 10:55 PM
Jul 2023

It’s such a shame. How can they live with themselves — giving an absolute con man like Trump so much power. Hillary did warn us.

betsuni

(28,464 posts)
20. Hopefully more people have grown up and not believe an election is about one person.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 11:19 PM
Jul 2023

2016 was all about a Hillary that didn't exist. Should've listened to Oprah when she said who cares if you like her or not, she's not coming over to your damn house. Next election they'll try to make it all about Biden. But he's old, what if this or what if that, oh no, something might happen in the future. Anything to distract people from realizing it's about party, about majority in legislature, the end. We have a society here and it's not about me me me, what I think, what I want. Ugh.

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