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Emrys

(8,732 posts)
1. I think that tweet might have been deleted as I tried to access it a couple of minutes ago.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:53 AM
Jun 2023

These work, though:




OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical

Wagner head Prigozhin has popped up in Rostov, with both Colonel General Yunus-Bek, Deputy Minister of Defense, and Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev, deputy chief of Russian military intelligence.

[Twitter video]





OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical

Colonel General Yunus-Bek (left), Prigozhin (center) Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev (right)



Maybe OSINTtechnical initially misidentified Kuzovlev and deleted the tweet. Alekseyev's presence is odd as we have video of him opposing Prigozhin's coup.

MagickMuffin

(17,952 posts)
9. A: Putin has been targeting his forces
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:44 AM
Jun 2023


Is my understanding. Prigozhin got pissed off and this is his revenge. Apparently in one of his videos he talked about how the invasion was a lie.


That’s my take on things. I know someone who lives in Rostov.

Cha

(315,001 posts)
11. TY.. yeah, I read that later about
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:55 AM
Jun 2023

Prigozhin saying the reasons for Russia attacking Ukraine were lies.

So that throws a Truth bomb out there.

So why did Putin target the Wagner group. Seems anybody would want to retaliate if they were being attacked.

I know they're both maniacs.

I just hope this helps Ukraine.

Arazi

(8,431 posts)
4. This is the first instance that's twanging my unease. Looks staged
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:05 AM
Jun 2023

Watching this has me very uneasy…

Emrys

(8,732 posts)
5. The plot thickens ...
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:06 AM
Jun 2023



Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch

And another video recorded 10 mins ago. Prigozhin still at the HQ. Says he is allowing everyone inside to continue fighting the war and to do their jobs. Reiterates his issues with the MoD not prosecuting the war competently

Certainly an anti-war actor he ain’t

[Twitter video]

Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch

Whoa! Corleone sit down video!

Prigozhin meets with Deputy Defense Minister Evkurov and GRU Deputy Alekseev at the Southern Military District HQ. Says he wants to meet with Shoigu and Gerasimov

[Twitter video]

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
7. Are these generals held against their will/under threat? I would have to think
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:23 AM
Jun 2023

the Wagner troops in and around the HQ must be ready to protect Prigozhin if anyone tries to kill or detain him. But why would you meet and chat peacefully with a coup instigator? Did they surrender to Wagner, or switch sides, or is this a trap that hasn't sprung yet? Or something else entirely, some kind of theater? Really weird shit.

highplainsdem

(58,645 posts)
8. Some kind of deal might have been reached. There's video of Wagner troops
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:35 AM
Jun 2023

moving away from the military HQ there in Rostov, while a huge Wagner column well north of Rostov could be en route to Moscow.






crickets

(26,166 posts)
10. It is weird. ETA
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:48 AM
Jun 2023



Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch
And there is precedent in modern Russia for such deals. Kadyrov (and his dad) were originally on the side of the rebels in the Second Chechen War (and had killed a lot of Russian soldiers) but then were convinced to switch sides and all was forgiven

Dmitri Alperovitch
@DAlperovitch
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51m
We might very well see Moscow make a deal with Prigozhin - perhaps give him more power and say in how the war is being conducted.

They clearly don’t want to fight him and he has now made his point and also lowering the aggressiveness of his tone

1:11 AM · Jun 24, 2023

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Much discussion (and dissent) in the replies, e.g.




Haolebones
@TheHaoleBones
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30m
The damage to Putin has already been done, by contradicting the official casualty reports and the whole reason for the SMO. Not sure if there is anyway for Putin to save face with a deal here.

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