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crickets

(26,166 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:24 PM Jun 2023

Alexander Vindman is online and following tonight's events in Russia.




Alexander S. Vindman ❎
@AVindman
For all of those that have been wondering how the war in Ukraine is going, it’s going insurrection-in-Russia well. To be completely clear: this insurrection is the direct result of Russia’s disastrous military campaign.
9:29 PM · Jun 23, 2023





Alexander S. Vindman ❎
@AVindman
The question of why Prigozhin head to Rostov rather than Moscow is answered by the storming of the SMD HQ. It it the most strategic target in the South of Russia if you’re targeting the Ministry of Defense. Now that Prigozhin has the HQ does he consolidate or move on.
10:28 PM · Jun 23, 2023





Alexander S. Vindman ❎
@AVindman
The seizure of the SMD HQ and the potential consolidation of control over bases in the area has taken the insurrection into very dangerous territory. The SMD/ Operational Command South has slices of every single asset in Russia's arsenal including strategic assets.
10:41 PM · Jun 23, 2023





Alexander S. Vindman ❎
@AVindman
I’ve made the drive from Rostov to Moscow at least a dozen times. Voronezh is more than halfway to Moscow. If reports of Wagner fighting in Voronezh are accurate, then they are hours away from Moscow.
11:16 PM · Jun 23, 2023





Alexander S. Vindman ❎
@AVindman
We will know soon enough what Prigozhins plans are if his forces encounter the same limited resistance they faced in seizing key terrain in Rostov.
11:18 PM · Jun 23, 2023


Gripping stuff. This is wild.
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Alexander Vindman is online and following tonight's events in Russia. (Original Post) crickets Jun 2023 OP
Kick dalton99a Jun 2023 #1
So prizie has nukes. .... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #2
Bigtime triron Jun 2023 #7
So "strategic assets" does mean nuclear weapons NickB79 Jun 2023 #10
I'd be very surprised if there weren't... LudwigPastorius Jun 2023 #23
Russian weapon safeguards may be similar to Britain's Grokenstein Jun 2023 #36
Perfect. Entire world at risk now. AllyCat Jun 2023 #25
This could be happening very quickly. Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #3
Alexander Vindman's wife, Rachel Vindman, shot off a zinger Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #4
+1 crickets Jun 2023 #11
Swan Lake! FM123 Jun 2023 #14
Swan Lake --- 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #26
Thanks orangecrush Jun 2023 #5
Small resistance bodes ill for Putin. triron Jun 2023 #6
Possible corroboration of the attacks in Voronezh: Emrys Jun 2023 #8
KICK!!! Leghorn21 Jun 2023 #9
KNR niyad Jun 2023 #12
Tonite the RuZZian Civil War has begun. roamer65 Jun 2023 #13
Do any of the opposing sides have nukes? ecstatic Jun 2023 #15
Yes, Russia has a lot of nukes. yardwork Jun 2023 #17
Hopefully they're not functional ecstatic Jun 2023 #41
Excellent live chat on subject on Twitter now Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #16
Thanks so much, Laura. crickets Jun 2023 #18
Yes. Well guess it's a new feature? Heard a chat Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #27
I'd never seen that feature before and it was really neat. crickets Jun 2023 #30
Ty. I've read/listened to him. electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #42
Hard to go back to light news - major media. Seems Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #44
I listen more to NPR, and WNYC (the flagship station) news, electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #45
Agree. Times like this event our major media Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #46
And I check Vindman as well. 👍 electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #47
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2023 #19
Right. I hardly know what to think, but best of luck to the Ukrainians & bad cess to Putin 🌻 Hekate Jun 2023 #31
I've thought that H2O Man Jun 2023 #43
ASV's opinions are worth something here. Thanks for posting. yonder Jun 2023 #20
Confirmation that things are indeed kicking off in Voronezh: Emrys Jun 2023 #21
Is Ukraine involved in any of this? It doesn't seem so FakeNoose Jun 2023 #22
It appears to be an unscheduled intramural event. bluedigger Jun 2023 #24
Bwahahaha Captain Zero Jun 2023 #48
OT: Thanks for taking the extra time to extract the text! Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2023 #28
No prob! crickets Jun 2023 #29
Where's the window for Putin? 6th floor or 12th? TeamProg Jun 2023 #32
It's not like costly wars haven't toppled Russian governments before AdamGG Jun 2023 #33
lots of updates at nbc-- i can't copy them but here's the link orleans Jun 2023 #34
Alexander S. Vindman ❎ Retweet: crickets Jun 2023 #35
Perfect time moniss Jun 2023 #37
Chinese Siberia is coming soon. roamer65 Jun 2023 #39
Clearly, we're watching history here, for vlad to lose power lindysalsagal Jun 2023 #38
I worry that if prigozhins forces were to take control they will make a more formidable fighting PortTack Jun 2023 #40

LudwigPastorius

(13,645 posts)
23. I'd be very surprised if there weren't...
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:19 AM
Jun 2023

control safeguards in place to prevent anyone but the Kremlin from deploying Russia’s strategic nuclear weapons.

Johnny2X2X

(23,518 posts)
3. This could be happening very quickly.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:34 PM
Jun 2023

Wagner has control of a a strategic city with a lot of resources for war they now have at their disposal. They’d be smart to act now before Moscow has time to do anything more than they have to defend itself.

Brother Buzz

(39,204 posts)
4. Alexander Vindman's wife, Rachel Vindman, shot off a zinger
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:34 PM
Jun 2023

I love where Rachel Vindman is coming from

Someone let us know if Swan Lake comes on.

Opinions are my own and not necessarily the views of my husband...but obviously if our views are different, mine are correct.

Someone let us know if Swan Lake comes on.— Rachel Vindman 🌻 (@natsechobbyist) June 24, 2023

Emrys

(8,734 posts)
8. Possible corroboration of the attacks in Voronezh:
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:38 PM
Jun 2023



Rob Lee
@RALee85

A Russian channel says there is gunfire on a stretch of the M4 highway in Voronezh oblast. They say Military equipment, including tanks, is on the highway.
https://t.me/milinfolive/102531

https://t.me/milinfolive/10

[Twitter video]



ecstatic

(34,960 posts)
15. Do any of the opposing sides have nukes?
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:00 AM
Jun 2023
I guess that part needs to be figured out before we grab the popcorn.

ecstatic

(34,960 posts)
41. Hopefully they're not functional
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 07:31 AM
Jun 2023

and useless duds like most of their other equipment. A failed state with nuclear weapons. What could be worse?

crickets

(26,166 posts)
18. Thanks so much, Laura.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:04 AM
Jun 2023

This one?




I don't know that I agree with the chat, but immediately interesting in any case.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. Yes. Well guess it's a new feature? Heard a chat
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:35 AM
Jun 2023

a couple weeks ago about docs case.

It's raw. no bullshit politics just people and people who a very familiar with subject just talking. I love the freedom of no corporate bs

crickets

(26,166 posts)
30. I'd never seen that feature before and it was really neat.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:57 AM
Jun 2023

I could only take about 20-30 minutes, though. Hoo, there were some strong feelings being expressed about the topic so it was fascinating to listen to just for a bit.

Hekate

(99,915 posts)
31. Right. I hardly know what to think, but best of luck to the Ukrainians & bad cess to Putin 🌻
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:07 AM
Jun 2023

H2O Man

(78,116 posts)
43. I've thought that
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jun 2023

Putin might face an internal threat more insane than him. This doesn't appear to be anything that will end well. It's a shame that innocent people will suffer from the madness.

Emrys

(8,734 posts)
21. Confirmation that things are indeed kicking off in Voronezh:
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:16 AM
Jun 2023



Aric Toler
@AricToler

Meanwhile, in Pavlovsk (Voronezh), there's heavy fighting with helicopters. I've seen a half-dozen or so videos showing fighting there over the last couple hours.
This one was filmed around 50.4551, 40.1328 (all credit to @Michael1Sheldon for geolocation)
https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/107948

crickets

(26,166 posts)
29. No prob!
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:54 AM
Jun 2023

If I didn't, all I'd see is "link to text" so I know how frustrating that is for people. That, and a lot of people do not want to give clicks to Twitter, which is understandable.

crickets

(26,166 posts)
35. Alexander S. Vindman ❎ Retweet:
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:22 AM
Jun 2023



Alexander S. Vindman ❎ Retweeted
Michael Kofman @KofmanMichael
I think this video, which just appeared, helps settle some of the confusion on forces involved. That said, the conversation is remarkable. And this is happening barely a day later.

Rob Lee @RALee85 · 41m
Video of Yevgeny Prigozhin meeting with Deputy Defense Minister Yunus-bek Yevkurov at the Southern Military District HQ.
https://t.me/grey_zone/19270

12:37 AM · Jun 24, 2023


More from Rob Lee:



Rob Lee
@RALee85
·
13m
The other official is Deputy Chief of the GRU/GU Vladimir Alekseev who was in charge of forming PMCs and coordinating with them for the MoD. Prigozhin clearly wanted to make a point that he isn't subordinate to a Deputy Defense Minister or Deputy Chief of the GRU. 2/
Rob Lee
@RALee85
·
8m
And Yevkurov is a well-know figure. He was a VDV officer and received the Hero of Russia award for the Dash to Pristina. Prigozhin clearly wants to make clear that he is a higher status than these officials, comparable to Shoigu's level.
3/


max seddon
@maxseddon
·
24m
Replying to @maxseddon and @AndrKolesnikov
In another video posted shortly afterwards, Prigozhin says Wagner controls "the military facilities of Rostov, including the airport," but is not hindering operations in the invasion of Ukraine.

“We do it in such a way that the attack planes do not hit us, but the Ukrainians."
[video]

moniss

(8,222 posts)
37. Perfect time
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:34 AM
Jun 2023

for China to "redraw" any boundaries with Russia that have been on their minds.

lindysalsagal

(22,761 posts)
38. Clearly, we're watching history here, for vlad to lose power
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 02:12 AM
Jun 2023

On social media. This will be the first world social media war. I just wonder how civilians will react to chaos and anarchy across Northern asia.....

PortTack

(35,797 posts)
40. I worry that if prigozhins forces were to take control they will make a more formidable fighting
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 02:34 AM
Jun 2023

Force for Ukraine. Wagner group was the one causing most of the Ukrainian casualties in Bakhmut

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