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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlexander Vindman is online and following tonight's events in Russia.
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For all of those that have been wondering how the war in Ukraine is going, its going insurrection-in-Russia well. To be completely clear: this insurrection is the direct result of Russias disastrous military campaign.
9:29 PM · Jun 23, 2023
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The question of why Prigozhin head to Rostov rather than Moscow is answered by the storming of the SMD HQ. It it the most strategic target in the South of Russia if youre targeting the Ministry of Defense. Now that Prigozhin has the HQ does he consolidate or move on.
10:28 PM · Jun 23, 2023
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The seizure of the SMD HQ and the potential consolidation of control over bases in the area has taken the insurrection into very dangerous territory. The SMD/ Operational Command South has slices of every single asset in Russia's arsenal including strategic assets.
10:41 PM · Jun 23, 2023
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Ive made the drive from Rostov to Moscow at least a dozen times. Voronezh is more than halfway to Moscow. If reports of Wagner fighting in Voronezh are accurate, then they are hours away from Moscow.
11:16 PM · Jun 23, 2023
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We will know soon enough what Prigozhins plans are if his forces encounter the same limited resistance they faced in seizing key terrain in Rostov.
11:18 PM · Jun 23, 2023
Gripping stuff. This is wild.

dalton99a
(90,873 posts)getagrip_already
(17,786 posts)That ought to spice things up.
triron
(22,240 posts)NickB79
(20,133 posts)I was afraid of that
LudwigPastorius
(13,645 posts)control safeguards in place to prevent anyone but the Kremlin from deploying Russias strategic nuclear weapons.
Grokenstein
(6,181 posts)(jump to 5:27)
AllyCat
(18,289 posts)Prighozhin is NOT a good man.
Johnny2X2X
(23,518 posts)Wagner has control of a a strategic city with a lot of resources for war they now have at their disposal. Theyd be smart to act now before Moscow has time to do anything more than they have to defend itself.
Brother Buzz
(39,204 posts)I love where Rachel Vindman is coming from
Someone let us know if Swan Lake comes on.
Opinions are my own and not necessarily the views of my husband...but obviously if our views are different, mine are correct.
FM123
(10,277 posts)Yep, that would be something - just like 1991.
3Hotdogs
(14,725 posts)as performed by Les Ballets Trocadero De Monte Carlo.
orangecrush
(27,076 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)Emrys
(8,734 posts)Link to tweet
@RALee85
A Russian channel says there is gunfire on a stretch of the M4 highway in Voronezh oblast. They say Military equipment, including tanks, is on the highway.
https://t.me/milinfolive/102531
https://t.me/milinfolive/10
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Leghorn21
(13,978 posts)
roamer65
(37,806 posts)ecstatic
(34,960 posts)
yardwork
(68,371 posts)ecstatic
(34,960 posts)and useless duds like most of their other equipment. A failed state with nuclear weapons. What could be worse?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)crickets
(26,166 posts)This one?
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I don't know that I agree with the chat, but immediately interesting in any case.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)a couple weeks ago about docs case.
It's raw. no bullshit politics just people and people who a very familiar with subject just talking. I love the freedom of no corporate bs
crickets
(26,166 posts)I could only take about 20-30 minutes, though. Hoo, there were some strong feelings being expressed about the topic so it was fascinating to listen to just for a bit.
electric_blue68
(24,476 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)so uninformed and shallow.
electric_blue68
(24,476 posts)BBC.
Some regular news.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Is ill informed. And it shows
electric_blue68
(24,476 posts)H2O Man
(78,116 posts)Hekate
(99,915 posts)H2O Man
(78,116 posts)Putin might face an internal threat more insane than him. This doesn't appear to be anything that will end well. It's a shame that innocent people will suffer from the madness.
yonder
(10,172 posts)Emrys
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@AricToler
Meanwhile, in Pavlovsk (Voronezh), there's heavy fighting with helicopters. I've seen a half-dozen or so videos showing fighting there over the last couple hours.
This one was filmed around 50.4551, 40.1328 (all credit to @Michael1Sheldon for geolocation)
https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/107948
FakeNoose
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bluedigger
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Captain Zero
(8,533 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)crickets
(26,166 posts)If I didn't, all I'd see is "link to text" so I know how frustrating that is for people. That, and a lot of people do not want to give clicks to Twitter, which is understandable.
TeamProg
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AdamGG
(1,811 posts)1917, 1991...
orleans
(36,491 posts)(i was trying to copy the one posted at 11:29 pm)
crickets
(26,166 posts)Link to tweet
Michael Kofman @KofmanMichael
I think this video, which just appeared, helps settle some of the confusion on forces involved. That said, the conversation is remarkable. And this is happening barely a day later.
Rob Lee @RALee85 · 41m
Video of Yevgeny Prigozhin meeting with Deputy Defense Minister Yunus-bek Yevkurov at the Southern Military District HQ.
https://t.me/grey_zone/19270
12:37 AM · Jun 24, 2023
More from Rob Lee:
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The other official is Deputy Chief of the GRU/GU Vladimir Alekseev who was in charge of forming PMCs and coordinating with them for the MoD. Prigozhin clearly wanted to make a point that he isn't subordinate to a Deputy Defense Minister or Deputy Chief of the GRU. 2/
Rob Lee
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And Yevkurov is a well-know figure. He was a VDV officer and received the Hero of Russia award for the Dash to Pristina. Prigozhin clearly wants to make clear that he is a higher status than these officials, comparable to Shoigu's level.
3/
max seddon
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Replying to @maxseddon and @AndrKolesnikov
In another video posted shortly afterwards, Prigozhin says Wagner controls "the military facilities of Rostov, including the airport," but is not hindering operations in the invasion of Ukraine.
We do it in such a way that the attack planes do not hit us, but the Ukrainians."
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moniss
(8,222 posts)for China to "redraw" any boundaries with Russia that have been on their minds.
roamer65
(37,806 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,761 posts)On social media. This will be the first world social media war. I just wonder how civilians will react to chaos and anarchy across Northern asia.....
PortTack
(35,797 posts)Force for Ukraine. Wagner group was the one causing most of the Ukrainian casualties in Bakhmut