What if judge Aileen Cannon dismisses Trump's case?

[Kablooie]

I know. No one expects that, even from her.

But if she did, she could only be removed from the bench by impeachment by the House and trial by the Senate.
This will never happen with our current Congress so she could eliminate the case without fear of losing her job.

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(fixed her name in the title)

[Marius25]

1. Aileen, and it means the case is dismissed and Trump gets away with espionage

Not sure if the 11th Circuit can step in or not.

[Kingofalldems]

11. So if you are not sure -

why did you say Trump gets away with espionage?

Fucking tiresome.

[Marius25]

16. You should find it tiresome that Trump always finds ways

To delay or prevent accountability.

[FloridaBlues]

2. I think the 11 circuit court could ask her to be removed also DOJ could request her to removed

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. I believe you are correct.....

and I think she will be removed if a pic gets out that she was on the Trump train to screw this country,

[MFM008]

39. Yes

Smith can challenge.

[FrankBooth]

3. Then DOJ appeals

And the 11th Circuit shuts Aileen down again, just like they did before.

[Marius25]

4. Can the 11th Circuit overturn a dismissal of the charges?

[TexasDem69]

6. Yes

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. Absolutely they can, and will,

just like the last time they slapped her down, and this was from Benedict appointed judges.

[Marius25]

23. They slapped her down before over the special master

Dismissing or sabotaging a criminal trial seems more problematic.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. With the intense scrutiny and with her being humiliated by the 11th last time,

I don't think she'll try any of her shenanigans again, this time, IMHO, the 11th will hammer her if she tries to interfere again.

[Marius25]

26. I'm just so disgusted she's involved. It's causing me a lot of stress.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. I understand what you're saying,

but, again, IMHO, there is a sea change in the air and it's going against Benedict, yes, there are those that will stick with him no matter what, but he is losing the Independant vote, plus the suburban vote and as more and more of his crimes come out, it's my belief that he's done for.

[Sgent]

37. If she waits until

a jury is empaneled and gives a directed verdict there is no effective appeal. The DOJ could appeal her ruling for posterity but it is moot since Trump couldn't be retried after jeopardy attached.

[captain queeg]

7. It's hard to imagine but not impossible

She’d go down in history as a shame to the judiciary. On the other hand if she just does her job in what is an open a shut case she could go down in history for presiding over the first time an ex president is convicted of a crime, and shown in a positive light in the future.

[dpibel]

8. Pretty sure that's appealable

"In a criminal case an appeal by the United States shall lie to a court of appeals from a decision, judgment, or order of a district court dismissing an indictment or information or granting a new trial after verdict or judgment, as to any one or more counts, or any part thereof, except that no appeal shall lie where the double jeopardy clause of the United States Constitution prohibits further prosecution."

If there's been no trial and no verdict, there's no double jeopardy issue.

So Aileen can try again to intervene for her hero. No guarantees, but I wouldn't bet against the appellate court slapping her silly again if she tries a groundless dismissal.

[WarGamer]

9. That's not how she'll help him.

She'll help by granting every scheduling change Trump wants... kicking the can waaaaay down the road.

Every motion Trump introduces, she'll consider it for a month.

Stuff like that.

[Kingofalldems]

13. I thought you posted that the SC will step in?

[WarGamer]

14. I explained it before but I'll explain it again now for you.

Since NONE of this has ever been tried before vs a Former or sitting US POTUS, there will be LOTS of opportunities for higher Courts to rule on normal Courtroom motions.

No precedent... it all has to be done from scratch.

Example: If Trump files a motion to quash the indictment... what's next? What does Cannon do? Then the 11th Circuit? SCOTUS?

[Kingofalldems]

15. So either way Trump wins?

That's what I am reading.

[Marius25]

17. He usually does. He's gotten away with most things for his whole life

[Kingofalldems]

29. Ahh, now I get it.

Should we give up and just let him take over?

[Marius25]

30. No. But be realistic and realize there isn't real justice in America

For the rich and powerful.

[grantcart]

31. Yep she could kick it down the road for years

It could take months to just get his attorneys security clearances, then he dismisses the legal team and we start this all over again.

[Bev54]

10. I am not going down that road, I really don't think she will.

[Marius25]

12. MSNBC lawyers saying she could really damage this case

It’s so insane she’s allowed to be involved.

[llmart]

20. Which makes me wonder why Smith chose Florida over D.C.

He didn't have to go with Florida according to one legal expert on ABC.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. So you think you know better the SC Smith?

I'll trust SC Smith to know what he's doing, so far, he seems to be doing a hell of a job.

[llmart]

28. Why so snarky? It's uncalled for.

I was just wondering why he might have chosen that. It was not a criticism of him at all. I never said I "knew better" than him or that it was a mistake.

[EndlessWire]

33. Well, many commentators

are saying that it was smart because it avoids the conflict of venue, and the delay that would cause. Who knew that Cannon would show up.

Jack told us in his press conference that he is seeking a speedy trial, which shows me that he is totally aware of the stakes.

[sarcasmo]

35. Par for the Trump course.

[tenderfoot]

38. Sow those seeds of doubt

[EndlessWire]

32. It's like a bad plot twist.

Well, we got to enjoy the indictment for one day until Cannon returned, like a specter haunting us. Midas Touch says no worries, but others say differently. It does seem odd that the very first judge is also on the paper there, so maybe it is just a perfunctory step. I no longer hold out hope that he'll have to wear an ankle bracelet, if she is on the case day one. He'll walk in and walk out. Probably keep his passport, too.

Also, I think that the loss of his two attorneys will be used for delay, no matter who the judge is. This was Bundy's advice to--who was it? Another notorious serial killer. Just fire your attorney to get a delay.

Now, I think they got fired because Trump said he was reassured that he was going to skate, when he got whopped upside the head by this indictment. But, someone has to be sacrificed, and this is his MO to delay. The plan is to delay until he is protected by his candidacy. Which will happen.

I am enjoying the commentary on Jack, who I find comforting, in my weakness. I feel that if he can't do it, nobody can. He'll do his best, which is considerable.

I heard one commentator state that Cannon is highly respected.

[Mme. Defarge]

34. She has crazy eyes

like Michelle Bachman. Gives me the creeps.

That said, I trust Jack Smith and his venue decision.

[sadasfyed]

36. she wont be presiding this case