Sign at Clackamas United Church of Christ:

[applegrove]

"SNIP.......

Happy Pride Month!
Jesus had two Dads
We think that's Fabulous

......SNIP"

[marble falls]

1. The sexton must be off today.

[applegrove]

2. Takes me a while to get it up on my cell phone.

[ShazzieB]

23. The United Church of Christ is a very progressive denomination.

UCC has been promoting inclusivity for years. From their website:

Pride 2023: https://www.ucc.org/ucc-celebrates-pride-2023-with-special-events-programs-and-resources-for-churches/

UCC Open and Affirming Coalition: https://openandaffirming.org/ona/

[marble falls]

29. I was making a joke, when he first posted it, the sign wasn't posted. My wife and I just quit the ..

... local Methodists over their berserk attitude towards LGBT. They're leaving the national Methodists Convention over this issue.

85% of the congregation voted to turn their backs on LGBT Christians. I can't believe I've know some of these people twenty years and never realized they were bigots. the MAGA is strong out here, and I'm just considered a misled hippie.

[70sEraVet]

34. The Methodist church in our tiny town changed their name, rather than give up their ....

time-honored bigotry. Worried they might be called upon to love and accept someone they don't like.

[marble falls]

35. It's absolutely heart breaking.

[hoosierspud]

37. The subject of leaving has not come up in our UMC church

In Spokane, but we heard that 12 churches in the Northwest Conference have voted to leave

[yellowdogintexas]

42. Not in my congregation either. First United Methodist in

Fort Worth TX.. No big meetings, a vote was not held at the Board & not discussed, therefore no congregational vote. Our membership was clearly not interested. Most of the larger UMC churches in Tarrant County voted to stay. One or two went independent, and I am certain a number of churches went with the Global. I would expect the NW Conference to have a low number voting to leave. The percentages in the Southeastern Jurisdiction are much higher.

We are the largest UMC in our area (5000 members, approximately). Some of the local churches changed their names and are now "independent" churches. This gets them out of the funds they pay annually to the Conference.

some are going with the Global Methodist Churches. It varies according to location, but percentages of those leaving run around 35% to 40 % of the churches in the various annual Conferences, many of which are I would add that according to our ministers, smaller and rural churches are the majority of those leaving for the Global. I think there is a window of opportunity for these churches to move to the Global without surrendering their property to the UMC Annual Conference. This may be why we are seeing the large numbers exiting now - so they keep their buildings and land.

Surrender of property was a key issue in the negotiations. FUMC FW has a huge campus on the edge of downtown FW. Our parking alone would be a huge money maker for the Conference. I can see developers salivating over all that land with visions of condominiums and apartment buildings dancing in their heads.

We are going to have conservatives in every UMC congregation who migrate over to a GMC or independent, and Progressive members from the GMC churches who will transfer membership to a UMC church.

I think the "Globalists" stirred up this stink and made every effort to soil the nest enough that WE would be the ones who left ( and surrender our property) I am so glad it turned out they were the ones to leave.

This was a long time coming; the change in allowing gay ministers; marriage of gay persons by any minister etc has been voted on at every General Conference (international meeting every 4 years) for at least 30 years. Every time the vote was closer to make the changes; the African and some of the South American delegates were always the ones who drove the majority, along with the votes of delegates from conservative Annual Conferences.

Finally a compromise was reached, freeing congregations to leave without surrendering their property.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

3. ha ha. great

[House of Roberts]

4. Has Ayatollah DeSantis declared a fatwa against them yet?

It's just a matter of him hearing about this.

[calimary]

52. Ayatollah DeSantis! Good one, House of Roberts!

[Aristus]

5. +1!

[BumRushDaShow]

6. Here's the pic

[applegrove]

13. Thank you. I could not wrangle it on my cell phone.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. You're welcome

When I saw you were having issues, I started looking it up out of curiosity. I know trying to get images posted on DU with a phone can be a PITA (I generally post on DU with a laptop and have done it with my iPad if I'm out somewhere with it).

[crickets]

27. Yay! Love it. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

31. There is a Unitarian Universalist Church not far from where I used to live

that has similarly always been politically "woke" too -

[wnylib]

7. Where is Clackamas?

[TexasBushwhacker]

9. There's a Clackamas county in Oregon n/t

[panader0]

26. When I went to college in Salem('68), we had a group that we called the Clackamas CountyYouth High

School Circus. Just a gang of stoned misfits.

[mommymarine2003]

12. It is a county near Portland, OR.

Portland is in Multnomah County, and Clackamas is an adjacent county. I live in Gresham, OR.

[wnylib]

14. Thanks. Those of us who live far from there

do not recognize county names and need additional info about local news items.

[soldierant]

49. I thought Portland was in three counties (and that Clackamas was one of them.)

Have I been wrong?

[GenThePerservering]

25. A brief google search

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas,_Oregon

The whole area is nice.

[lildDemz]

36. Oregon, next to Portland.

Tonya Harding highlighted an unpleasant culture there 30 years ago.

[GreenWave]

38. So it's not Merry Clackamas any more?

[dai13sy]

40. In Oregon

south of Portland. Nice place, even better people. We don't accept Tonya Harding as an Oregonian

[niyad]

8. ahh, the sound of bigot heads exploding!

[BOSSHOG]

15. Wait til they find out Jesus wasn't white

[niyad]

19. Shhhhh. We are not supposed to notice.

[Behind the Aegis]

32. They, along with many others, still can't wrap their minds around he was a Jew...

...from birth to death.

[Fla Dem]

10. In Clackamas County in Oregon.

Evidently this church is well known for their "inclusive and sharing the love signs".


https://www.demilked.com/funny-church-signs-clackamas-united-church-of-christ-milwaukie-adam-ericksen/

[orleans]

24. thanks for that link nt

[phrigndumass]

41. Ditto and likewise...

It's one thing for a church to be "Welcoming" and a much better thing for a church to be "Affirming and Inclusive"

Loved all the signs at your link!

- Phrig

[calimary]

50. We're there now!

My husband came up with a good riff on that.

“Jesus had two dads.
So do you.”

[erronis]

11. Nothing about the vessel? Mary what's her name?

I won't bother looking it up but vessel seems related to vassal.

The Holy Roman Church (yes, I know it's not any of these things) worships the poor woman who had to put up with all of these lies. I bet she has a good story to tell --- except those stories are all written by men.

[applegrove]

16. Oh come on. Mary must have been so proud to have a son who hit such mastery of humanity

by his early 30s. Before him, and Moses before, people sacrificed children and scapegoated others.There were fewer murders and more children surviving into adulthood after the Bible. So what if the scribes got a bit supernatural. Lives were saved. You know that Democracy is a human construct too.

[calimary]

51. Of course! But it's Father's Day coming up now that we're in June.

Mother’s Day did come first.

[keithbvadu2]

17. For the Bible folks::: Eve was the first transgender - by creation.

Eve was the first transgender - by creation.

For the Bible folks:::

Eve was the first transgender. Originally 100% male.

God was OK with it.

[LastDemocratInSC]

22. And Adam was created as both male and female

The first with ambiguous gender.

[keithbvadu2]

28. "And Adam was created as both male and female"

https://www.google.com/search?q=adam+was+both+male+and+female&sxsrf=APwXEde2tJo5aPHeK0iAb5w9LCsolXlTRg%3A1685769552343&source=hp&ei=UM16ZJO3Eqqj5NoPhKO--As&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZHrbYMa1VYOP4VIIRn24SPu1IhDlxoiW&oq=adam+was+both+male+and+female&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIFCAAQgAQyCAgAEIoFEIYDMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDOggIABCABBCxAzoICC4QgAQQsQM6CAguELEDEIAEOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6CgguEIAEELEDEAo6CAguEIAEENQCOgYIABAWEB5QdljoqAFgm_oBaABwAHgAgAGKFogBvpEBkgERNS42LjIuMC4xLjctNC4yLjOYAQCgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

[erronis]

39. Those "originalists" sure do know how to twist their illogic around the axle.

Same type that are infesting the SCOTUS.

"It means what I say I think it means!"

[keithbvadu2]

45. Let's see... God created man (not mankind) but not able to reproduce.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=god+created+the+animals+scripture&form=ANNTH1&refig=b03d4d7318274163b59ffbed06c3525e&sp=2&lq=0&qs=UT&pq=god+created+the+animals&sk=MT1&sc=10-23&cvid=b03d4d7318274163b59ffbed06c3525e

When God created the animals, he gave them the ability to reproduce.

========================================

God created Adam but Adam could not reproduce so he had to adapt, improvise, and overcome by later making Eve.

But why would Adam have to reproduce?

Adam was made in God's image and God has no mate.

Adam could live forever.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=when+did+god+create+eve&form=ANNTH1&refig=5399de3b0da54ac1943d45b838d4d721

=================================

OK... Some tongue-in-cheek here.

[erronis]

47. Thanks for the tung-n-chique! I thought god could do any f'in thing he wanted.

IT (to be politically correct) could have made ITself a mate that would satisfy ITs urges to do what IT wanted. Of course that mate might have become more powerful than IT and lead to a whole new set of fantasy and legends and bibbles and korans with begats and beheads.

I'm going back to reading some scientific shit.

[keithbvadu2]

55. Some scientific shit?

Heathen! Heretic!

[Warpy]

18. I would expect nothing else from them

They're still the New England Congregational Church back there and extremely liberal everywhere.

Christians who got the point, now there's a novelty.

[nuxvomica]

33. Decades ago I was on a car trip with an eldery minister

We spent the time casually discussing religion and I joked about the different denominations, like "Assembly of God? Wasn't he already assembled?" We passed a church called the "Church of Christ" and I joked that they apparently thought they owned Christ. He replied that that was his church. One of the most liberal people I've ever met, he had been a CO ambulance driver in World War I. That's how I learned about the Congregational church.

[yellowdogintexas]

43. Remember there are two different Church of Christ in the US

One is hard core literalist, fundamentalist and if it isn't in the Bible, they won't do it. No instrumental music. No women on boards. Rules on who can serve on the boards even if male: over 50, married, never divorced. Evolution is anathema. No dancing, alcohol. ( l laugh when I think of the Wedding in Cana with the water into wine, and since it was a Jewish/Middle Eastern wedding they danced until they dropped)

The other is a much more moderate church and is one of the denominations which formed the United Churches of Christ.

If the gentleman was a member of the former, I do not know how he stood it, unless he just stayed for the singing which is fabulous.

[Warpy]

46. It's the main one I suggest for liberal believers disgusted with fundagelical religion

but who aren't ready for the UU.

Catholics get prodded toward the Anglican Church.

There are a lot of homes for people who are sick of having hatred preached at them.

[OMGWTF]

20. I am not a fan of organized religion but UCC isn't too bad.

[honest.abe]

21. Love it! I was member of UCC as a kid.

[yellowdogintexas]

44. If my church suddenly vanished, I would head over to

University UCC in a flash.

[Blue Owl]

48. K&R

[ShazamIam]

53. That gave me a joyous burst of laughter, thanks. nt

Last edited Sat Jun 3, 2023, 07:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Edit: Joys to Joyous

[Evolve Dammit]

54. Yep. Jesus had two Dads and he turned out OK.

[DemocraticPatriot]

56. LMAO!!! Outstanding!

I hope they don't get firebombed...