I kind of feel forced into this defense to prove a point...

[RoeVWade]

But a whole group of people making out trans people to be wrong or mentally disturbed ...well, there's a whole group of people against the trans community who claim to talk to an invisible being who listens to them, and they base their whole life around it.

We don't require those people to base their lifestyle on facts, science or anything else.

Needed to be said if it wasn't already.

[pwb]

1. You do realize Democrats are religious too?

And believe in Free Will. Your free will and mine.

[MineralMan]

2. Some Democrats are. Many others are not.

You might be. I am decidedly not. Neither of us is a better Democrat.

[pwb]

3. Which is exactly what I said.

?

[MineralMan]

5. No, it is not. You did not qualify your statement.

You said "Democrats are religious."

There are Democrats who have religious beliefs, and believers in every religion that exists. There are also Democrats who are atheists and have no religious beliefs at all. That's why your statement needs the qualifier, "some."

[pwb]

7. Yawn.

My words are my words. I don't need correction. Democrats are religious. I never said all. You did.

[MineralMan]

8. Oh, dear...

Have it your way, then.

[NoRethugFriends]

10. your understanding of the English language is somewhat faulty

[pwb]

12. There I fixed it.

One fucking word I left out.

[NoRethugFriends]

14. Fixed it where? And words have meanings.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

15. You didn't qualify it

That makes it mean all.

And it's bigoted to do that, but, as always, Exhibit 20382362366289923389729 of the religious refusing to get when they're being bigoted toward nonbelievers.

It's like when racists make racist remarks, a POC calls it out, and then the racist tells the POC they're not being racist. As if the racist would know what's racist toward people who are used to having people being racist against them.

[NewHendoLib]

4. Some.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

6. Any dem standing against trans rights

Using christianity to justify bigotry is
what immoral scumbags do.

Myself being trans in this country with ever encroaching fascism makes me question why anyone chooses to think like that.

Religion too often has been tolerant of bigotry because bigotry is expressed in the bible along with dehumanization slavery and genocide. Christians who call those parts of the bible as thier moral compass,have no moral compass.

Either you agree human rights apply to all people or you dont.
If you want to pick and choose which people get human rights based in an over valued old book or cause they make you feel icky, you really have no moral compass.

[Hortensis]

9. :) Well, this is a safe place to say it,RoeV. Democrats DON'T require others

to base their lifestyle on facts, science or anything else.

"Pursuit of happiness" is what was written into our Declaration of Independence, and that's the only mention, peripheral or otherwise, in that or the constitution to gender and gender choices.

Big fact: NOWHERE in the constitution are people defined as male and female. Those words appear nowhere, nor do any others related to gender or sexual orientation behaviors. Nor is race mentioned.

The constitution calls us all person(s) -- free and not free persons where that needed to be differentiated. In one or more places there is reference to "Indian;" there were preexisting legal documents involving tribes that used that term.

[anciano]

11. Agreed ......

"It is startling to realize how much unbelief is necessary to make belief possible." --- Eric Hoffer

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

16. Or as Richard Dawkins so aptly pointed out

Religious people are atheists about every religion but their own. When they realize why, maybe they'll finally comprehend why atheists don't believe in their religion, either. We go one more than they do. That's the only difference between us.

We treat their religion like they treat everyone else's, so why get upset when someone treats theirs the same way? But hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug, of religion.

[GenXer47]

13. the attack on trans people has never been anything but an appeal

to bigotry. It's easy for hate mongers to twist the whole thing into "the libs are coming to castrate your son."
Right wingers don't do nuance, or complexity, or even dictionary definitions very well.