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sheshe2

(94,660 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 08:36 PM May 2023

Let me remind you.

There were 6 men and 3 women on E. Jean Caroll's jury. The men and women collectively voted against trump.

They stood for all of us.

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Let me remind you. (Original Post) sheshe2 May 2023 OP
Yes they did claudette May 2023 #1
And they reached the verdict so quickly. lapucelle May 2023 #2
Three hours. sheshe2 May 2023 #6
Twitter joke I saw mcar May 2023 #23
Ha. sheshe2 May 2023 #26
when I heard one of them listened to Republican Radio I got nervous JuJuChen May 2023 #3
New Yorkers!!! elleng May 2023 #4
New York New York! sheshe2 May 2023 #7
Apparently, a few of them were MAGAs mcar May 2023 #5
That made it the perfect verdict. sheshe2 May 2023 #8
2 jurors were Magats, gab13by13 May 2023 #19
Good to hear, but I've always thought this was true. elleng May 2023 #9
Same Orrex May 2023 #15
That happened to me when I was in the military soldierant May 2023 #29
For these people, that was astonishing! dhol82 May 2023 #20
Offers some hope, doesn't it? nt mcar May 2023 #24
One hopes. dhol82 May 2023 #27
Even Better.. TY she Cha May 2023 #10
THIS is what democracy looks like! BigmanPigman May 2023 #11
Feels good, doesn't it. sheshe2 May 2023 #14
I sat on a few court martials while in the canoe club BOSSHOG May 2023 #12
Excellent! sheshe2 May 2023 #13
I love this description! mcar May 2023 #25
Yes. They did their job. Hortensis May 2023 #16
Posted about that here. sheshe2 May 2023 #18
Good! Notice Judge Kaplan DIRECTS anyone who wants to talk Hortensis May 2023 #30
Yes. This is important. The 6 men and 3 women believed nothing from one side of this case. ancianita May 2023 #17
They did this. sheshe2 May 2023 #22
Kick. n/t Upthevibe May 2023 #21
I immediately noticed the same thing... bluboid May 2023 #28
 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
1. Yes they did
Tue May 9, 2023, 08:38 PM
May 2023

When I saw there were twice as many men on the jury I honestly was worried. Dump did try to give the impression that “boys will be boys.” Thanks goodness those men were NOTHING like the orange criminal.

mcar

(45,429 posts)
23. Twitter joke I saw
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:38 PM
May 2023

said (paraphrasing), yeah, we know he's guilty but we want one more free lunch!

mcar

(45,429 posts)
5. Apparently, a few of them were MAGAs
Tue May 9, 2023, 08:41 PM
May 2023


Commenter on Nicole Wallace's show said that people take their oath as jurors seriously, regardless of their politics.

I am amazed.

elleng

(141,357 posts)
9. Good to hear, but I've always thought this was true.
Tue May 9, 2023, 08:50 PM
May 2023

(One of my great experiences was on a jury in a federal case, guy tried to rip off 9/11 fund thru fraud. We found him not guilty because govt didn't prove it's case.)

Orrex

(66,310 posts)
15. Same
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:02 PM
May 2023

I was foreman on a jury in 2008/09. 3rd degree murder was among the charges, but although every member of the jury was personally sure that the defendant was guilty, was all agreed that the prosecution failed to prove it.

It was remarkable to see, because we had a wide range of attitudes and political views, yet we stepped up and did our duty.


Can't say that I'd love to do it over and over again, but it was very interesting to serve.

soldierant

(9,099 posts)
29. That happened to me when I was in the military
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:21 PM
May 2023

and sat on a special court martial. The government didn't prove its case, and we had tp acquit. Every one of us had a gut feeling the defendant was guilty as sin so we were holding our noses, but it just was not proven.

dhol82

(9,619 posts)
20. For these people, that was astonishing!
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:22 PM
May 2023

I never think of MAGATs as being able to make rational choices.

BOSSHOG

(43,983 posts)
12. I sat on a few court martials while in the canoe club
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:53 PM
May 2023

Can’t speak for all but it was as if my head were cleansed when we were sworn in and I became mr neutral juror able to weigh all evidence without prejudice. And it was a good feeling.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Yes. They did their job.
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:05 PM
May 2023

I hope those angry at their verdicts aren't able to hurt them. And are quickly distracted by other triggers for unreasoned rage. Back to normal life.

sheshe2

(94,660 posts)
18. Posted about that here.
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:20 PM
May 2023

'You could get killed': National security analyst issues sobering warning to E. Jean Carroll jurors
A CNN national security analyst on Tuesday issued a sobering warning after the judge in E. Jean Carroll’s civil case advised jurors not to identify themselves.

Juliette Kayyem suggested that there are safety considerations for jurors after Judge Lewis Kaplan advised them before their dismissal not to identify themselves although they’re now allowed to.

Kaplan issued the admonition after a Manhattan jury ruled that former President Donald Trump was liable for defamation and sexual abuse and awarded Carroll $5 million.


"My advice to you is not to identify yourselves. Not now and not for a long time,” Kaplan said.


“If you’re one who elects to speak to others and to identify yourselves to others, I direct you not to identify anyone else who sat on this jury.

https://www.rawstory.com/you-could-get-killed-national-security-analyst-issues-sobering-warning-to-e-jean-carroll-jurors/
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217899117

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Good! Notice Judge Kaplan DIRECTS anyone who wants to talk
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:55 AM
May 2023

not to identify any other members. Also sounds like he believes they're still anonymous. Best wishes to them.

The Hill: Trump’s 2024 bid faces fresh uncertainty after E. Jean Carroll verdict: Republicans are divided over whether former President Trump's 2024 reelection chances could be hurt following a verdict reached Tuesday in a...

And more coming.

Happy Wednesday, Sheshe.

ancianita

(42,435 posts)
17. Yes. This is important. The 6 men and 3 women believed nothing from one side of this case.
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:10 PM
May 2023

They stood for calling every single Trump lie a lie.

They stood for the justice and reparation for all of us.


Thank you for this important reminder.

bluboid

(840 posts)
28. I immediately noticed the same thing...
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:06 PM
May 2023

I love it when men speak up & defend women's rights...

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