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malaise

(290,616 posts)
Fri May 5, 2023, 08:43 AM May 2023

Trump still says his supporters weren't behind the Jan. 6 attack -- but I was there

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/02/1068891351/january-6-insurrection-capitol-attack-trump-anniversary

"There are some reports that Antifa sympathizers may have been sprinkled throughout the crowd," Laura Ingraham said on her show that night.

And that narrative spread.

It was not Antifa

What’s he saying now? Any word from ReTHUG leadership yesterday or this morning?
MoscowMitch will rue the day he didn’t vote to remove the Slobfather from office. He was impeached and 57fucking Senators voted to remove him.
That he hasn’t been permanently ostracized still defies logic and decency. That CNN will give him a Town Hall is unacceptable on steroids.
Lock him and his enablers the fuck up so that people can finally exhale.




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Trump still says his supporters weren't behind the Jan. 6 attack -- but I was there (Original Post) malaise May 2023 OP
Enrique Tarrio is not Antifa. His words: We did this tulipsandroses May 2023 #1
Yet again The Slobfather and his Fux friends have been exposed malaise May 2023 #4
It was a stupid ploy. BeckyDem May 2023 #2
Shame on CNN malaise May 2023 #6
Antifa is as organized a political force in America as Teletubbies bucolic_frolic May 2023 #3
Hear! Hear! solara May 2023 #23
Liar. no_hypocrisy May 2023 #5
Meme I made from an actual photograph underpants May 2023 #13
No true Scotsman puts brown sugar on his porridge ! FBaggins May 2023 #7
Any Scotsman who does is clearly a deep state false flag Scotsman IronLionZion May 2023 #22
This is the tactic of the Lie kwolf68 May 2023 #8
They know exactly what they are doing JanLip May 2023 #9
The brainwashed were around long before Trump... Septua May 2023 #28
McConnell was/is banking that the judicial process.... jaxexpat May 2023 #10
Good read. Janie is a moron and a dupe. underpants May 2023 #11
I will never understand how being anti fascist or anti authoritarian is a bad thing. gordianot May 2023 #12
Maybe rename 'antifa' into 'antifascism' Justice matters. May 2023 #27
Pearl Harbor happened. Changed everything... Joinfortmill May 2023 #31
Now why would anybody think Trump Supporters were in on the 1/6/21 attack? Botany May 2023 #14
Chaff BlueIdaho May 2023 #15
Yep he is going down malaise May 2023 #18
Yup. Hang on tight, people. Joinfortmill May 2023 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise May 2023 #19
Yet he wants to pardon them all but they were all ANTIFA, yet the GOP Congress refuses investigation Obvious85 May 2023 #16
It is amazing how many times he has given his hand away malaise May 2023 #17
He has no filter localroger May 2023 #24
Antifa dressed up as MAGA, waving Trump flags to object to electing Biden IronLionZion May 2023 #20
(rant) Agreed: It was not "antifa" solara May 2023 #21
Antifa is their Emmanuel Goldstein /nt localroger May 2023 #25
Excellent reference solara May 2023 #37
Excellent rant malaise May 2023 #26
Very glad solara May 2023 #35
Next it will be they were all multigraincracker May 2023 #30
No doubt solara May 2023 #34
Amen to that Joinfortmill May 2023 #29
Laura really needs to have a talk with Jack about antifa..bring receipts asiliveandbreathe May 2023 #33
Don't Look UP lindysalsagal May 2023 #36
Now that right there is a serious threat.. Permanut May 2023 #38

tulipsandroses

(8,039 posts)
1. Enrique Tarrio is not Antifa. His words: We did this
Fri May 5, 2023, 08:50 AM
May 2023

That’s why he was found guilty yesterday.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
2. It was a stupid ploy.
Fri May 5, 2023, 08:51 AM
May 2023

But his fans & Fox defenders needed a boogie man to blame.

CNN? Only about ratings. Ted Turner did not mean for it to end up like it has, imo.

bucolic_frolic

(53,021 posts)
3. Antifa is as organized a political force in America as Teletubbies
Fri May 5, 2023, 08:52 AM
May 2023

and recall how Republicans obsessed over them!

no_hypocrisy

(53,622 posts)
5. Liar.
Fri May 5, 2023, 08:54 AM
May 2023

Billy Prempeh, the Republican candidate for NJCD 9 (opposite Bill Pascrell, Jr.) announced on Facebook on Jan. 5, 2021 (his page) that he was going to DC the next day per TFG’s invitation. Prempeh was trying to get his supporters to join him. The next day/Jan. 6 he put on his page video of him hanging with dispirited MAGAts in an alley.

Don’t tell me it was Antifa.

kwolf68

(8,146 posts)
8. This is the tactic of the Lie
Fri May 5, 2023, 09:05 AM
May 2023

Here is how propaganda works. You don't come out and say "NONE of those people were Trump guys", because that's easily disproven. How you do it is make statements like this:

"Antifa sympathizers may have been sprinkled throughout"

What that does it cast doubts on just "how far" they were going to overthrow the government. It clouds the debate. That's the real goal of a propagandist, it isn't to prove something wrong (such as the harmful impacts of smoking or climate change or insurrections), just cast suspicion on it and enough idiots will be duped you actually accomplish the same thing as absolute proof would have, it's just a lot easier to do it this way and more subtle.

Ingarahm is trash.

JanLip

(862 posts)
9. They know exactly what they are doing
Fri May 5, 2023, 09:13 AM
May 2023

If the orange baboon says day is night the minions would believe him. 30% of our population is brainwashed. I may be wrong but I think people are getting tired of all the lies. I know I am.

Jan

Septua

(2,919 posts)
28. The brainwashed were around long before Trump...
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:04 AM
May 2023

..came down the escalator and they had been waiting on someone like him for a long time.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/09/it-didnt-start-with-trump-the-decades-long-saga-of-how-the-gop-went-crazy/

There is a great body of academic literature exploring why people believe conspiracy theories, hold fast to false premises, and are susceptible to tribalism and drawn to authoritarians.


In 1970, sociologists Seymour Martin Lipset and Earl Raab wrote, “Right-wing extremist movements in America have all risen against the background of economic and social changes which have resulted in the displacement of some population groups from former positions of dominance.”


In an analysis of Trump’s 2016 victory, political scientists John Sides, Michael Tesler, and Lynn Vavreck reached an identical conclusion: “He capitalized on an existing reservoir of discontent about a changing American society and culture.”

The 30% crowd is not going away. If they can't have Trump, they'll just get behind a Trump-type.
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
10. McConnell was/is banking that the judicial process....
Fri May 5, 2023, 09:25 AM
May 2023

and a complicit for-profit news media would cause Democrats to miss their opportunity, allowing Republicans a chance at reversing the narrative to their advantage.

underpants

(193,657 posts)
11. Good read. Janie is a moron and a dupe.
Fri May 5, 2023, 09:32 AM
May 2023

"So they were black helmets, black clothes, black backpacks who started busting the windows first," said Janie, a nurse from South Carolina, who said she saw members of Antifa and Black Lives Matter committing the violence. She also claimed the Trump supporters were actually trying to fight them off. But when we mentioned we were on site that day, she admitted that she never actually came close enough to the Capitol to see any violence.

gordianot

(15,705 posts)
12. I will never understand how being anti fascist or anti authoritarian is a bad thing.
Fri May 5, 2023, 09:33 AM
May 2023

My old Republican father was definitely anti fascist and paid the price with his youth.

Justice matters.

(9,047 posts)
27. Maybe rename 'antifa' into 'antifascism'
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:52 AM
May 2023

The three-letter soundbyte isn't working in this we-dont-need-no-education just lies all the time on Faux Entertainment era.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. Chaff
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:13 AM
May 2023

Military aircraft often drop chaff - bits of aluminum that confuses radar - as they approach a target. TFG uses a similar tactic. He throws up countless random bullshit claims in order to hide the main news items of the day. Do not lose track of the fact that he is now on the losing end of several civil and criminal cases and more are coming.

Don’t chase the bright shiny objects, keep you eye on the prize… The destruction of the former Guy.

Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #15)

Obvious85

(262 posts)
16. Yet he wants to pardon them all but they were all ANTIFA, yet the GOP Congress refuses investigation
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:14 AM
May 2023

and there is this little thing called video evidence of all the Trump flag-carrying supporters, who are now sitting in prison

malaise

(290,616 posts)
17. It is amazing how many times he has given his hand away
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:17 AM
May 2023

and exposed his role in the failed coup.
The end is nigh! He'll be caught in his own trap of lies.

localroger

(3,776 posts)
24. He has no filter
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:39 AM
May 2023

I remember Doonesbury strips about him in the 1980's. He has no clue what he looks like to other people, and has always depended on his money and reputation to protect him. Now that the money and reputation are both nearly gone he is so much in the habit that he can't switch lanes.

IronLionZion

(50,222 posts)
20. Antifa dressed up as MAGA, waving Trump flags to object to electing Biden
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:22 AM
May 2023

the fact that it's all MAGAts being arrested and jailed is proof of the deep state conspiracy against MAGA patriots who just wanted to innocently tour the Capitol.

The 0 Antifa arrests are because deep state let them all get away. Thousands of them.

solara

(3,894 posts)
21. (rant) Agreed: It was not "antifa"
Fri May 5, 2023, 10:23 AM
May 2023

As we all know, there IS no "antifa" ... antifa means ANTI-FASCIST.. those ignorant trumpian mega-sheeple will believe anything that can be perceived as "other" long enough to assign blame to it.. even though they are clearly projecting.

Forgive me, I know I am 'preaching to the choir' but, ya see, I got rid of my Tweet account where I used to go to vent - that's really all I used it for.

Grrr... it's so frustrating to hear maga republicans' ignorant, clueless, and careless lies go unchallenged and become "the norm" on nearly every media platform.

Media speaks about "antifa" as if it were an actual 'thing' with uniforms no less



Rant over for the moment

solara

(3,894 posts)
37. Excellent reference
Fri May 5, 2023, 12:31 PM
May 2023

Seems I had forgotten about the actual book.. since we seem to have been living it for way too long now..

solara

(3,894 posts)
35. Very glad
Fri May 5, 2023, 12:29 PM
May 2023

we are on the same ride..

One of the reasons I love DU.. is finding articulate folks of like mind.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
33. Laura really needs to have a talk with Jack about antifa..bring receipts
Fri May 5, 2023, 11:29 AM
May 2023

Laura..
AFA the tramp and the CNN townhall..Kaitlin Collins of The Daily Callertuckim's fame..who aspires to be CNN president from this ..slow soft balls..to be expected..and NO, I will not volunteer to watch..

(BTW, time WAS changed from 9pm to 8pm to snag all those lost tuckims followers, still channel surfing.. )

lindysalsagal

(22,764 posts)
36. Don't Look UP
Fri May 5, 2023, 12:29 PM
May 2023

You'll notice all the video of all of his troglodytes carrying his banner into the capital.

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