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In It to Win It

(11,621 posts)
Mon May 1, 2023, 12:43 PM May 2023

A new emergency application asks SCOTUS to halt bans on assault weapons that Illinois... enacted

Mark Joseph Stern
@mjs_DC

A new emergency application at the Supreme Court asks the justices to halt bans on assault weapons that Illinois and Naperville enacted after a shooter slaughtered seven people with an assault weapon in Highland Park on July 4. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23793879/22a948.pdf







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A new emergency application asks SCOTUS to halt bans on assault weapons that Illinois... enacted (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2023 OP
How about we submit an emergency application for resignation KPN May 2023 #1
Might be a good idea JanLip May 2023 #6
And with that- James48 May 2023 #2
yep, I was going to type something like that Tickle May 2023 #12
National Association for Gun Rights? They mean Gun Manufacturer rights. Freethinker65 May 2023 #3
Exactly. Bluethroughu May 2023 #5
And a strict Constitutionalist could argue that if the founding fathers wanted to include any/all Freethinker65 May 2023 #7
We have one of those it's called the National Guard(well reg. MILITIA) Bluethroughu May 2023 #10
This is more proof JanLip May 2023 #4
From the link....page 10 KS Toronado May 2023 #8
The numbers aren't much different with the latest data available though NickB79 May 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author KPN May 2023 #9

KPN

(16,937 posts)
1. How about we submit an emergency application for resignation
Mon May 1, 2023, 12:48 PM
May 2023

of 6 specific Supreme Court Justices (an oxymoron that — “Justices” — in this particular case)?!

JanLip

(862 posts)
6. Might be a good idea
Mon May 1, 2023, 01:00 PM
May 2023

Seems they won’t do the right thing. Guns over people. Sickening

Jan

James48

(4,978 posts)
2. And with that-
Mon May 1, 2023, 12:55 PM
May 2023

The sitting Justices destroyed any gun control legislation with the stroke of a pen.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
12. yep, I was going to type something like that
Mon May 1, 2023, 04:48 PM
May 2023

They did it in NY with a state ban on guns of some sort but the SC said nope you can't do that

Freethinker65

(11,201 posts)
3. National Association for Gun Rights? They mean Gun Manufacturer rights.
Mon May 1, 2023, 12:56 PM
May 2023

SCOTUS has no problem allowing States to legislate the contents of females' uteruses. Assault weapons have more "rights" in this county than females.

Freethinker65

(11,201 posts)
7. And a strict Constitutionalist could argue that if the founding fathers wanted to include any/all
Mon May 1, 2023, 01:26 PM
May 2023

any/all future weapons regardless of their destruction capacity/potential, they would have done so.

Not to mention, the "well regulated militia" portion of the amendment that Gun (Manufacturer) Rights groups neglect to bring into their arguments.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
10. We have one of those it's called the National Guard(well reg. MILITIA)
Mon May 1, 2023, 03:35 PM
May 2023

The Supreme No Nothings (GOP) choose which, if any, Rule of Law that pays their lavish lifestyle. They should be ignored, they're actually working against "We the People".

The are not Promting the General Welfare and should be removed.

KS Toronado

(21,467 posts)
8. From the link....page 10
Mon May 1, 2023, 01:37 PM
May 2023
The fact that AR-platform rifles are used extremely rarely in crime un-
derscores that the banned firearms are commonly possessed by law-abiding
citizens for lawful purposes. Well under 1% of gun crimes are committed with

“assault rifles.” Gary Kleck, Targeting Guns: Firearms and their Control 112
(1997). This conclusion is borne out by FBI statistics. In the five years from
2015 to 2019, there were an average of 14,556 murders per year in the United

States. U.S. Dept. of Just., Expanded Homicide Data Table 8: Murder Victims
by Weapon, 2015-2019, Crime in the United States, 2019, FBI (available at
https://bit.ly/31WmQ1V). On average, rifles of all types (of which assault weap-

ons are a subset) were identified as the murder weapon in 315 (or 2.5%) of the
murders per year. Id. By way of comparison, on average 669 people per year
are murdered by “personal weapons” such as hands, fists, and feet. Id. Thus,

according to FBI statistics, a murder victim is more than twice as likely to have
been killed by hands and feet than by an assault weapon. Even in the counter-
factual event that an assault weapon had been involved in each rifle-related

murder from 2015 to 2019, an infinitesimal percentage of the approximately
24 million “assault rifles” in circulation in the United States during that time
period (0.006%) would have been used for that unlawful purpose.


They're using data from 1997 and 2015-2019 in their attempt to prove that “personal weapons” such as
hands, fists, and feet." are more dangerous than assault weapons. If I was a Judge, I'd be

NickB79

(20,121 posts)
11. The numbers aren't much different with the latest data available though
Mon May 1, 2023, 03:48 PM
May 2023
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

In 2020, the most recent year for which the FBI has published data, handguns were involved in 59% of the 13,620 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (36%) involved other kinds of firearms or those classified as “type not stated.”


Assault rifles aren't used in crime nearly as much as many people believe. However, when they are used, they cause a lot of destruction in a very short period of time, due to their increased firepower over a handgun.

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