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malaise

(296,131 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 09:40 AM Mar 2023

What Should I Make of this? The Trump Campaign's Collusion With Israel

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)

I know that Bibi used to stay at the Kushner home

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-israel-collusion/

Roger, hello from Jerusalem,” read the message from the Israeli secret agent. Dated August 12, 2016, it was addressed to Roger Stone—at the time a key player in Donald Trump’s presidential election campaign. “Any progress? He is going to be defeated unless we intervene. We have critical intel. The key is in your hands! Back in the US next week.” Later, the agent promised, “October Surprise coming!”

This report has been adapted from portions of James Bamford's book Spyfail: Foreign Spies, Moles, Saboteurs, and the Collapse of America's Counterintelligence, published by Twelve Books.

While the American media and political system fixated on Russian President Vladimir Putin and his armies of cyber warriors, trolls, and bots, what was completely missed in the Russiagate investigation of 2016 was the Israeli connection. No details of it were ever revealed in the heavily redacted Mueller Report. Nor was there any mention of an Israeli plot in the similarly redacted Senate Intelligence Committee Report on collusion charges in the 2016 election, or in any of the indictments or trials stemming from the Russia charges. Nor did any mention of Israeli involvement ever leak into the press. Yet I can reveal here the details of an elaborate covert operation personally directed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that aimed to use secret intelligence to clandestinely intervene at the highest levels in the presidential election on behalf of Trump.

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What Should I Make of this? The Trump Campaign's Collusion With Israel (Original Post) malaise Mar 2023 OP
To this date................. Lovie777 Mar 2023 #1
bibi and trump are birds of a feather...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2023 #2
On that subject, do not miss this thread from a while back, particularly Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #3
Thanks malaise Mar 2023 #6
Interesting, huh? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #7
I read it last month malaise Mar 2023 #9
What I make of it is two f*cking criminals conspiring together. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #4
I think it's a lot more than that. We don't like to think in such terms for fear Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #5
We Face A Sort Of 'Fascist Internationale', Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2023 #8
We Face A Sort Of 'Fascist Internationale', Ma'am malaise Mar 2023 #10
Jews Are Not A Monolith, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2023 #11
Well, wish the Israeli's fighting for their liberal democracy success. Hortensis Mar 2023 #12

Lovie777

(22,992 posts)
1. To this date.................
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 09:44 AM
Mar 2023

I still can not understand why would BiBi and his crew would wrap their arms around persons who hate Jews, and yet there it is.

Universal greed with power.

Scrivener7

(59,527 posts)
3. On that subject, do not miss this thread from a while back, particularly
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 09:58 AM
Mar 2023

Celerity's post, which should be an OP in itself. It's a jaw dropper.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217652450

Scrivener7

(59,527 posts)
5. I think it's a lot more than that. We don't like to think in such terms for fear
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:05 AM
Mar 2023

of being labeled conspiracy theorists, but there's a network there.

Remember: everything they do is a projection. Hillary's pizza thing was a projection. This is a hint of what it is they are projecting.

See Celerity's post here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217652450

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
8. We Face A Sort Of 'Fascist Internationale', Ma'am
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:10 AM
Mar 2023

There's all kinds of people adhere to it, and are tools for those with a budget. This is not conspiracism, no allegation all is occult and known only to initiates. Allies work together. Fascists of different nations, whether privately or by government action, will work together. It's a knack democracies are going to have to get the hang of....

malaise

(296,131 posts)
10. We Face A Sort Of 'Fascist Internationale', Ma'am
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:19 AM
Mar 2023

his but as Lovie777 noted upthread, why would anyone in Israel work with Fascists?

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
11. Jews Are Not A Monolith, Ma'am
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 01:28 PM
Mar 2023

There are fascists among Jews. There are fascist strains in Israeli politics. Dislike of democracy is widespread, and especially when it does not deliver some much desired result, has a powerful attraction.

We are accustomed to see anti-semitism as a basic element of fascism, but not everyone sees it that way. Some think fascism has 'outgrown' that. Others think they will secure a privileged position for themselves. There may even be a few who feel overthrow of the democratic order worth any sacrifice.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Well, wish the Israeli's fighting for their liberal democracy success.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 01:36 PM
Mar 2023

As someone pointed out, peoples around the planet who face the same threats, including us, are watching. We all NEED them to win. Netanyahu's "paused" their takeover of the judiciary.

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