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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 08:48 AM Feb 2023

Nikki Haley presidential run would sink DeSantis and hand Trump victory - poll

The Guardian

As the former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley prepares to announce a run for president, a new poll found that just one additional candidate in the 2024 Republican primary will be enough to split the vote and keep Donald Trump ahead of Ron DeSantis, his only current close rival.

Trump, the only declared Republican candidate so far, has not yet been to Iowa.

The Yahoo News/YouGov poll gave DeSantis, the Florida governor, a 45%-41% lead over Trump head-to-head. Similar scenarios in other polls have prompted increasing attacks on DeSantis by Trump – and deflections by DeSantis.
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Nikki Haley presidential run would sink DeSantis and hand Trump victory - poll (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2023 OP
Have posted this a good # of times Cosmocat Feb 2023 #1
I think people of overselling DeSantis... SKKY Feb 2023 #2
I have a hard time believing Haley could have this impact, but who knows Raven123 Feb 2023 #3
Right now 45 is destroying DeSatan in the polls Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #4
agree...she is a nothing burger CurtEastPoint Feb 2023 #6
TFG is declining in the polls Kaleva Feb 2023 #8
It is pretty early Jarqui Feb 2023 #5
Think she would agree to run with him? blueinredohio Feb 2023 #7
IDK. Trump is a terrible on stage against other people Johonny Feb 2023 #9
You must have never seen DeSantis debate. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #15
I don't see her having much traction. themaguffin Feb 2023 #10
I think it's utterly ridiculous to try and forecast these scenarios before bullwinkle428 Feb 2023 #11
T45 made it through 2016 primary with lower support than now IbogaProject Feb 2023 #12
24 months and counting republianmushroom Feb 2023 #13
Here we are discussing the probable outcome of primary which involves tfg msfiddlestix Feb 2023 #14
I bet she and Trump have a deal Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #16

Cosmocat

(15,311 posts)
1. Have posted this a good # of times
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 08:54 AM
Feb 2023

Because they are a party of uncontrollable attention seeking morons, they will have double digit people running for POTUS. So, while his "base" might be shrinking a bit, even if it is 30-40% or so, all the other candidates will wash out the other 60-70%.

Put another way.

Most of his 30 to 40% is HIS.

DeSantis' 40% or so is a lot softer, for every other candidate that comes in there he is going to lose some to that particlarly candidate.

SKKY

(12,679 posts)
2. I think people of overselling DeSantis...
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 08:56 AM
Feb 2023

...Once his snarky-ass gets on the national stage, he will be seen as the privileged, racist, frat boy with authoritarian fever dreams he really is. I'm not the least bit worried about DeSantis.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,419 posts)
4. Right now 45 is destroying DeSatan in the polls
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 09:00 AM
Feb 2023

Which is fine with me, because Joe gets to clean Trumpy's clock again LOL!

Jarqui

(10,772 posts)
5. It is pretty early
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 09:25 AM
Feb 2023

Too early to draw many firm conclusions.

It would be wonderful if it held because I fear DeSantis is much worse than Trump and like many, I don't think Trump can beat Biden.

Johonny

(24,894 posts)
9. IDK. Trump is a terrible on stage against other people
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 11:00 AM
Feb 2023

He only crushed in 2016 because Bush, and Cruz didn't understand the audience and ignored Trump as the light weight he really is. The wasted time attacking each other and allowing Trump to basically skate through their confrontations. There's no way his GOP opponents will treat him the same way . . . right? Trump is easy to beat in a debate, see Biden's thorough destruction of him, and there's reason to believe most major GOP backers are going to also go in for the kill. Trump isn't the outsider anymore. He has a long track record of complete failure and his opponents speak the same MAGA language as him. Only they're smarter, younger, and out for blood. The primary will be ugly and FOX news won't have Trump's back.

W_HAMILTON

(9,706 posts)
15. You must have never seen DeSantis debate.
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 07:59 PM
Feb 2023

If you think Bush and Cruz were bad, wait till you see DeSantis on the debate stage against Trump. DeSantis will get bullied worse than Rubio did by Christie and he'll stand there looking ignorant and impotent.

bullwinkle428

(20,659 posts)
11. I think it's utterly ridiculous to try and forecast these scenarios before
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 12:36 PM
Feb 2023

untested candidates get up on a national stage for the first time.

Remember back in 2012, when Rick Perry was projected to be the "field-killer", and run away to dominate that primary process?

IbogaProject

(5,206 posts)
12. T45 made it through 2016 primary with lower support than now
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 01:03 PM
Feb 2023

This is all media Horse Race b$ for them to generate interest in their product manufactured 'news'.

msfiddlestix

(8,143 posts)
14. Here we are discussing the probable outcome of primary which involves tfg
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 06:55 PM
Feb 2023

As jaded as I am, I did not contemplate in absolute terms, tfg having the opportunity to run again.

it just breaks my heart that this is where we are now, and where we will be next year.

Buckeyeblue

(6,060 posts)
16. I bet she and Trump have a deal
Thu Feb 9, 2023, 08:43 PM
Feb 2023

She'll either be his VP or SOS if he wins. If he doesn't win she gets a bunch of free publicity.

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