Here are the stark differences between Trump and Biden classified docs cases: legal experts

[TheBlackAdder]

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1) In particular, he cited a statement from Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president, who said that "that on the same day the material was discovered, Nov. 2, the White House counsel's office notified the National Archives, which took possession of the materials the following morning.”

2) In fact, the CNN story reveals that the documents have been locked up for five years, there was no request for them from he National Archives, and no flaunting of the documents by Biden. Trump's documents were stored in a pool storage room and there is evidence that he defied multiple requests to return them.

3) In fact, it's entirely possible Biden didn't even know he had them. The FBI wasn't called in to negotiate with anyone on Biden's team for the documents. There was also no search warrant issued for the FBI to search the locked offices for the documents.

4) “The documents were discovered when the President’s personal attorneys were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C. The President periodically used this space from mid-2017 until the start of the 2020 campaign. On the day of this discovery, November 2, 2022, the White House Counsel’s Office notified the National Archives. The Archives took possession of the materials the following morning.”


https://www.rawstory.com/biden-documents-not-trump-scandal/

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[W_HAMILTON]

1. If Trump had taken the same approach Biden had, Trump wouldn't even be under investigation.

So, the fucking question is, why is Biden? Because of political considerations that this DOJ says they don't make?

[samnsara]

2. yep this is a nothing burger and we should treat it as such

[elleng]

3. Thanks

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. K&R

[Samrob]

5. Biden's case no comparison to Trump refusing to turn over documents.

Sorry to disappoint but this is not the same as Trump's criminal behavior. The GOP will be sorry if the jump all over this. It's going to show a stark difference in respect for laws, regulations, and our intel community. Quite different from the Trumpians reaction.

[fescuerescue]

6. Plus there is no proof that Biden did this personally

And even if there is, there no proof that Biden did it intentionally

It's completely different.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. Statement from White House Counsel's Office on cooperation with the National Archives:

Link to tweet

[Cha]

8. TY!

[Mr.Bill]

9. I've watched 45 minutes of the evening news on our local Fox affiliate

and no mention has been made of it.

[FakeNoose]

10. It could have been a staffer that put them away and forgot about them

There was no intention to hide the documents or use them for private, nefarious purposes.

Biden vacated that office in 2017 when Chump was inaugurated. Didn't anyone look in that closet since 2017?

[MichMan]

12. Quoted part of the article said he used it from 2017 through the start of the campaign in 2019

The President periodically used this space from mid-2017 until the start of the 2020 campaign.

[wishstar]

15. The VP office was located at foreign policy "think tank" staffed by his inner circle

so there were a number of former WH officials who had held security clearances who were on the staff at the location where the docs were found. This CBS article gives much more details than the CNN article.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/biden-center-classified-documents/

[dflprincess]

11. Also no sign that any member of the Biden family recently received $2 billion from the Saudis

or other foreign government.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread TheBlackAdder

[republianmushroom]

14. seems somebody's trying to justify trumps actions.

[ShazzieB]

17. As someone observed uptrend, this is a nothing burger.

Unfortunately, the House Repubs who are salivating for things to use against Biden will do there best you make a something burger out of it.

Eventually it'll blow over, because Biden has done nothing wrong, and they won't be able to prove he did, but this could be a pita for a while. I'm having Hillary/Benghazi flashbacks right now. 😦

I hope I'm overreacting. Time will tell.

[Kingofalldems]

18. Boom!

Trolls were salivating for a while there.

Kick and rec.

[progressoid]

19. As if the right wing knuckle draggers can see the difference.

[live love laugh]

23. ✔️

[SuperCoder]

20. Well, the DOJ is sure moving fast against Biden...

I sure would like to see them move just as fast with those indictments agains Trump (Hitler).

[thenelm1]

21. Unfortunately, you know this will have absolutely zero effect on the...

"whataboutism" from the right. They don't do nuance. Give them a few days and they'll be ramping up this up into the usual nothingburger "scandal of the century". You can probably count on it like the sun will rise in the morning...it's how they roll.

[live love laugh]

22. "... there was no request for them from he National Archives..."

Why I wonder?

[TigressDem]

24. OH SNAP - THIS

From Rawstory Link in OP

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-documents-not-trump-scandal/

"If you can’t grasp the difference between finding improperly stored classified docs that you immediately turn over to NARA vs. obstructing and lying in a federal investigation regarding improperly stored classified docs, I cannot help you," Moss said.