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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(11,790 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:04 PM Dec 2022

Mississippi woman 43 (veterinarian) kills two cops - update...not suicide, killed by return fire

Last edited Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:53 AM - Edit history (1)

its interesting that cops talked to woman in car for 30 minutes. Black man in car with gun... it would have been "SHOW YOUR HANDS... pow pow pow". kid in car or not.


BAY ST. LOUIS, Miss. (AP) — Two police officers in coastal Mississippi were shot and killed early Wednesday by a woman who they had talked to for nearly 30 minutes in a motel parking lot, authorities said. The woman also died.

Amy Anderson, 43, was sitting in a parked SUV with a female child when the officers were sent to the parking lot of a Motel 6 in Bay St. Louis around 4:30 a.m. on a welfare check, the Mississippi Department of Public Safety said in a statement.

Bay St. Louis Police Sgt. Steven Robin and officer Branden Estorffe spoke to Anderson for nearly a half-hour before she fired at them while sitting in the vehicle, investigators said. During the conversation, the officers called for Child Protection Services, the police statement said.

Robin, 34, died in the parking lot. Estorffe, 23, died a short time later at the hospital, Mississippi Bureau of Investigation agents said.

Additional officers who rushed to the scene found Anderson dead from a gunshot wound to the chest. An earlier statement said the woman shot herself. It was unclear what happened to the girl inside the SUV.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-2-officers-killed-after-30-minute-talk-with-woman/ar-AA15h7cz


https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article269991917.html



A veterinarian from Ocean Springs shot and killed two Bay St. Louis police officers Wednesday morning before she is suspected of killing herself in a car in the parking lot of Motel 6, Sean Tindell, commissioner of the Mississippi Department of Public Safety, told the Sun Herald.

Amy Brogdon Anderson, 43, was identified by the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation as the woman who fired the shots before she died of a gunshot wound to the chest.

A child under the age of 10 was with Anderson in a brown Toyota Highlander. Anderson had backed her SUV into a parking spot on the west side of Motel 6 when two Bay St. Louis police officers arrived around 4:30 a.m. Wednesday. The police officers were responding to a welfare check.

Read more at: https://www.sunherald.com/news/local/crime/article269991917.html#storylink=cpy

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Mississippi woman 43 (veterinarian) kills two cops - update...not suicide, killed by return fire (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 OP
ok dokie yup reymega life Dec 2022 #1
Tragic. More must come out on this because this situation... brush Dec 2022 #2
interesting.. i will research BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #9
Veterinarians have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession...nt Jade Fox Dec 2022 #3
do they really? BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #5
That's what I read. Don't have a link....nt Jade Fox Dec 2022 #6
A lot of school IbogaProject Dec 2022 #8
Vet school costs as much as a specialty Med school. Vet pay is half MD pay. haele Dec 2022 #10
well... I will stop begrudging that $2000 vet bill I had a few years ago BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #13
Pets don't live as long as humans, so they encounter a lotta death of loved ones Kennah Dec 2022 #16
Am taking my second feral in tomorrow UpInArms Dec 2022 #23
Yes Meowmee Dec 2022 #11
Yes. Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #15
Agreed. jeffreyi Dec 2022 #18
It wasn't a suicide. LisaL Dec 2022 #24
I was answering a generic question about veterinarians and suicide rates - Ms. Toad Dec 2022 #26
I just saw that.. will correct title BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #27
My friend's husband is a vet. phylny Dec 2022 #20
Sounds like this one was homicidal, not suicidal. LisaL Dec 2022 #25
Thoughts & Prayers (tm) SoCalDavidS Dec 2022 #4
Time to change the national anthem Celerity Dec 2022 #7
I don't know what happened Meowmee Dec 2022 #12
Remind me again who exactly is made safer with guns? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2022 #14
Two cops die and your most important treestar Dec 2022 #17
That poor child! Wicked Blue Dec 2022 #19
What a tragedy all around. Please try to be kind. nolabear Dec 2022 #21
A tragic ending of lives UpInArms Dec 2022 #22
How strange RussBLib Dec 2022 #28
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
2. Tragic. More must come out on this because this situation...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:14 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Thu Dec 15, 2022, 04:37 AM - Edit history (1)

sure wasn't handled right. Somehow the standoff got escalated instead of de-escalated.

IbogaProject

(5,210 posts)
8. A lot of school
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:33 PM
Dec 2022

To then have folks often not being able to afford expensive care for the pets.

haele

(14,768 posts)
10. Vet school costs as much as a specialty Med school. Vet pay is half MD pay.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:40 PM
Dec 2022

Veterinary Doctors have crushing debt, and a financial setback can easily lose them a practice.
Even if they sign up with a group practice like Benfield or VCA, they still are looking at only $60 - $80 k in their pockets on an annual basis. While their human MD counterpoint is easily taking home 2 to 3 times more.
Their office costs are the same. Their medical equipment and staffing costs are the same. Plus most do overnight boarding, which has it's own issues and costs.
It's a tough job. And they don't make enough to pay off their college bills before it's time to retire.

I don't mind paying my vet one bit. Even if it hurts my household budget.

Haele

UpInArms

(53,569 posts)
23. Am taking my second feral in tomorrow
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:51 AM
Dec 2022

For neutering, shots and treatment of a wound …

Will happily pay whatever the vet wants …

They have taken care of every animal (except my horses - a different vet) for almost 30 years

Ms. Toad

(37,907 posts)
15. Yes.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022
The rate of suicide in the veterinary profession has been pegged as close to twice that of the dental profession, more than twice that of the medical profession (2), and 4 times the rate in the general population (3).


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266064/#:~:text=The%20rate%20of%20suicide%20in,the%20general%20population%20(3).

We let one of our cats die at home because, at the time, the vet had had an unusually high numer of euthanasias and couldn't handle another. (Our cat died snuggling on my chest, after waiting for me to come home from work. As near as we could tell she was not in pain - had she been, we would have taken her to the vet.) The vet also came to our house to euthanize a second one. He was clearly preparing to die (hiding from us in small dark places, he'd stopped eating and drinking). We took him outside, his favorite place to be even though he wasn't allowed, and he perked up. It took all the vet assistant could to do convince the vet he was ready to go. (He had liver failure and was extremely jaundiced - there's no cure for liver failure.)

Imagine going into a profession because you love animals - and then you have to spend a significant amount of your time euthanizing animals - sometimes ones who aren't ready to die but have become inconvenient for their owners (poor toileting habits, unruly, etc.).

Ms. Toad

(37,907 posts)
26. I was answering a generic question about veterinarians and suicide rates -
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 01:22 AM
Dec 2022

not making a statement about whether this specific veterinarian committed suicide. (Although the initial reports did indicate she died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.)

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
12. I don't know what happened
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 09:43 PM
Dec 2022

Very sad. Her Facebook page is full of happy photos of her and her children she had 3 children it seems.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Two cops die and your most important
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 10:27 PM
Dec 2022

Ganéis to a cud them that they would have treated a hypothetical black man a certain way ? This remark is made every time you find anyone else involved with the cops. It wouldn’t happen every single time. And the cops you are accusing here just lost their lives.

Wicked Blue

(8,311 posts)
19. That poor child!
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:01 PM
Dec 2022

It must have been horrifying for the little girl who was in the car with her mother. I hope she gets all the love, care and therapy she will need.

nolabear

(43,832 posts)
21. What a tragedy all around. Please try to be kind.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:49 PM
Dec 2022

Who knows what’s behind this. People are dead, and horribly traumatized. Making it about where it happened and what it’s assumed would have happened otherwise disrespects them all.

UpInArms

(53,569 posts)
22. A tragic ending of lives
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:47 AM
Dec 2022

I can only say that I know nothing about this situation …

and can only surmise that everything in this woman’s life had fallen apart

And there were no exit ramps and safety nets


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