Ukraine, Baltics rebuke Macron for suggesting 'security guarantees' for Russia

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(Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron's suggestion the West should consider Russia's need for security guarantees if Moscow agrees to talks to end the war in Ukraine unleashed a storm of criticism in Kyiv and its Baltic allies over the weekend.

In an interview with French TV station TF1, Macron said that Europe needs to prepare its future security architecture and also think "how to give guarantees to Russia the day it returns to the negotiating table."

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's top aide, Mykhailo Podolyak, said that it is the world that needs security guarantees from Russia, not the other way around.

"Civilized world needs 'security guarantees' from barbaric intentions of post-Putin Russia," Podolyak said on Twitter on Sunday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-baltics-rebuke-macron-suggesting-013241064.html

Seriously Macron WTF are you thinking?

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1. Zelensky's absolutely right.

Fuck Russia. Let them plead forgiveness after Putin is gone.

[DFW]

2. Macron should have taken history and geography into account before coming out with that

Russia has been invaded exactly twice in the last 200+ years. Both incursions ended in disaster for the invaders, the first of which was France's own Napoléon I (Hitler was the other).

Russia's vast population and geography should be enough to discourage ANY outside invader from wanting to take over the place. So what if they have natural resources? They were always for sale. Why instigate a war to grab them? Buy them, and Russia will have the funds to spend on your products, too. Where do you think their mafia got the funds to buy up $100 million apartments in Manhattan after all? Not by invensting in the Moscow stock market, that's for sure.

Most anyone with a map, but especially someone from Germany or France should know that no one is looking to invade and conquer Russia. It's the other way around. Russia has always been on the lookout for neighbors it could gobble up.

One can only hope that Macron was tactfully choosing his words for a Russian audience. They sure ring hollw in the West.

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4. +1

At least 47 alarms went off in my little brain when I saw that. I had hoped that it was only some kind of signaling but I doubt it. He said something last summer that was also in line with appeasing poopin in some way.

I don't like this pattern development with him.

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5. Not quite....

https://www.rbth.com/history/330753-which-countries-dared-to-invade-russia

This unprecedented intervention happened during the Civil War in Russia (1917-1921), while the Soviet state was still in its infancy. After the Brest treaty of March 1918, which ended Russia’s involvement in WWI, different states started military occupations of various Russian territories. Most notably, Germany had occupied parts of European Russia, Great Britain held Arkhangelsk, Murmansk, Sevastopol, and the Crimea; France and Greece partly controlled Odessa; Italy and Great Britain took part in the invasion of the Russian Far East, and Finland had occupied the territory of Karelia. In total, 14 different states had occupied Russia during this period.

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It's not in the article, but the US sent aid to some of the invaders.

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3. I'm pretty sure that Ukraine can agree to not invade Russia

Other than that, No guarantees.