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Senator Mark Warner on SCOTUS (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP
Thank you Sen. Warner MagickMuffin Dec 2022 #1
Amen! Long overdue! nt Atticus Dec 2022 #2
Why is it so hard to post a bit of the tweet without making everyone click on musk's platform? erronis Dec 2022 #3
+1. Thankfully, a few members post the actual text as well Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #6
They can even simply copy and paste (CTRL+C and then CTRL+V) just the text as well. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #9
A scrrenshot would do that. soldierant Dec 2022 #14
I think many of us have the same or similar opinion. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #15
What bugs me in particular: clicks generate advertising revenue. Pobeka Dec 2022 #33
It's Stupid & Illogical. TY & Sen Warner! nt Cha Dec 2022 #4
WhiteHouse is also all over this. True Blue American Dec 2022 #5
Ethic's rules ae possible, and desirable, but appointment for life is in the Constitution. patphil Dec 2022 #7
Slim to 0 chance of ever changing that? Duppers Dec 2022 #22
Yes. patphil Dec 2022 #28
The Equal Rights Amendment says "Hi"... NullTuples Dec 2022 #30
Time to do it. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #8
Just the man to do it. It needs to be done. Sooner rather than later. Martin68 Dec 2022 #10
Senators are ALSO bound by no official code of ethics that anyone else can enforce FBaggins Dec 2022 #11
That also needs to change, official code of ethics for elected officials they swear to and Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #24
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2022 #12
I had no idea how "loosey-goosy" this all was. The coup revealed lots of flaws in the system. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #13
There's a reason for that: the Repukes have never succeeded in gaming SCOTUS FakeNoose Dec 2022 #17
Damn. Doesn't bode well does it? We could take a very hard right turn to the 1800's. nt Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #18
K&R UTUSN Dec 2022 #16
LIKE republianmushroom Dec 2022 #19
The bill he's talking about is S.4188 - Supreme Court Ethics, Recusal, and Transparency Act of 2022 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #20
Excellent!! Duppers Dec 2022 #21
Thank You spanone Dec 2022 #23
BRAVO! YES!!! liberalla Dec 2022 #25
Can't the court just declare it unconstitutional? tinrobot Dec 2022 #26
Well sure... but only because it would be FBaggins Dec 2022 #32
Thank you, Senator Warner wendyb-NC Dec 2022 #27
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2022 #29
Finally Old Virgin-eye-a to the rescue! GreenWave Dec 2022 #31
Those who serve in government should be held... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #34
Supremes pamdb Dec 2022 #35
Fixed retirement age like most states have Historic NY Dec 2022 #36
Would require a constitutional amendment FBaggins Dec 2022 #37

MagickMuffin

(17,949 posts)
1. Thank you Sen. Warner
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 03:43 PM
Dec 2022


No non-elected official to have that much power without any oversights.

We are experiencing just that a rogue court deciding our fates.


erronis

(21,592 posts)
3. Why is it so hard to post a bit of the tweet without making everyone click on musk's platform?
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:22 PM
Dec 2022

Everyone that really likes to just repost tweets. Please find a way to give all the rest of us some information without requiring us to visit your other favorite site.

From what I got from https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598066722564501504.html:

The Supreme Court is bound by no official code of ethics.

These folks are unelected and serving lifetime terms – it’s time they’re held to some basic ethical code. I’m on a bill to change that.

Tetrachloride

(9,153 posts)
6. +1. Thankfully, a few members post the actual text as well
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:44 PM
Dec 2022

I appreciate that Twitter is a battleground. But I don’t want to slime myself unnecessarily.

soldierant

(9,028 posts)
14. A scrrenshot would do that.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:51 PM
Dec 2022

Screenshots don't link to the tweet the way embeds do.

Also, a screenshot, being just a jpg or png, load much faster than embeds.

Yes, you need to upload it somewhere in order to get a URL to make it shpw up. But there are sites which will do that, and many if not most of them are free.

One workaround is to post a jpg or png from your computer into a Disqus comment. Disqus assigns its own URL, and you can right click on the picture in the post and "Copy image URL." And many, many sites use Disqus.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,444 posts)
15. I think many of us have the same or similar opinion.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:58 PM
Dec 2022

It would be nice to have the word "twitter" in the title of an op. Maybe a real poll to prove consensus. It may be that many are waiting to see (for how long and after how much damage) how this all plays out. Seems clear to me what is going on. One billionaire is trying to have his way, to hell with, standing norms and potential damage to democracy. It's not a secret here that i have a problem with, Dangerous hate speech getting the protection of the our founding documents.

I don't think any social media giant should have the right to give voice to hate speech which leads to potentially violent outcomes. So we can wait and see what happens, or we can try to be proactively part of a solution.

By the way, I love the animal clips posted from twitter and some of the other stuff. They truly bring light into my day so I know it would be a loss to many. Sometimes we have to buck up until someone else does it right, hell some are even apparently trying now.

Will we make a difference to twitter or to the head cheese himself? Maybe even probably, not. I guarantee if those of like mind do not try, twitter as it is now will move ahead.

Not worth it to me.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
33. What bugs me in particular: clicks generate advertising revenue.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:49 AM
Dec 2022

The last thing I want to do now is fund this neonazi site with my click, no matter how seemingly insignificant.

So a little copy/paste really improves that aspect of just posting a link to twitter.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
5. WhiteHouse is also all over this.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:42 PM
Dec 2022

He has been making speeches on the floor and was on MSNBC last night. He is not alone in this fight, Thomas, his wife and Alito have exposed the Court. It remains to be seen if Roberts really cares about his Court. I doubt it for the loony decisions they have made. Unlimited dark money was the worst, and now 4 lied to Congress about Roe, then ruled against it . The Federalist Society is corrupt to the core.

A corrupt Court and a mobster President. That slime will not go away. Ginni Thomas belongs in jail, along with Trump and the mob that are being indicted.

https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/videos/watch/republicans-had-a-chance-to-end-dark-money

patphil

(8,350 posts)
7. Ethic's rules ae possible, and desirable, but appointment for life is in the Constitution.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:52 PM
Dec 2022

No chance of that ever getting changed, regardless of who runs the government.
Even with ethics rules, we would have to control both Houses, and vote to limit filibuster in Senate.
Republicans would never agree to ethics rules as long as they run the SC.

patphil

(8,350 posts)
28. Yes.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 10:52 PM
Dec 2022

Amendment must first get passed by 2/3 vote of both the House and the Senate.
Then it needs to be ratified by 3/4 of all the States.

Chances are definitely slim to 0 that would ever happen.

FBaggins

(28,477 posts)
11. Senators are ALSO bound by no official code of ethics that anyone else can enforce
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:34 PM
Dec 2022

They have a "standards of conduct", but nobody else can enforce it and they agree upon the rules themselves (i.e., no other branch of government gets a say).

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
24. That also needs to change, official code of ethics for elected officials they swear to and
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 08:58 PM
Dec 2022

against which their conduct can be clearly judged using a standard ruler.

Why not, a voter would ask?

Evolve Dammit

(21,276 posts)
13. I had no idea how "loosey-goosy" this all was. The coup revealed lots of flaws in the system.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:47 PM
Dec 2022

Question is, can we actually harden the law to make such overthrow attempts and free reign less likely??

FakeNoose

(38,985 posts)
17. There's a reason for that: the Repukes have never succeeded in gaming SCOTUS
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 08:00 PM
Dec 2022

... until now. Well, until 2 years ago. Now we can see all the damage they're actually capable of.

ShazzieB

(21,762 posts)
20. The bill he's talking about is S.4188 - Supreme Court Ethics, Recusal, and Transparency Act of 2022
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 08:39 PM
Dec 2022

It was introduced by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (RI). Co-sponsors include Mark Warner (VA), Cory Booker (NJ). Mazie Hirono (HI), Dianne Feinstein (CA), Patrick Leahy (VT), Dick Durbin (IL), and others.

More information on the bill, including its full, text, is available here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4188/all-info

Duppers

(28,439 posts)
21. Excellent!!
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 08:43 PM
Dec 2022

Thank you, fellow Virginian.

Heard him give an outstanding speech once at NASA Langley. I already respected the guy.

Really do hope his bill succeeds.

FBaggins

(28,477 posts)
32. Well sure... but only because it would be
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 11:10 AM
Dec 2022

That is… to the extent such a law would remove a justice for serious violations, it would be amending the constitution by legislation.

pamdb

(1,438 posts)
35. Supremes
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 12:48 PM
Dec 2022



This whole lifetime term thing, maybe when men (because it was only men) lived to maybe late 60's, that was ok. Now
when people can live well into their 80's, or more, I think they should get rid of the lifetime bit. In fact, I'll go farther,
I think you shouldn't be able to even be in the court until the age of ...maybe 50? 45? And, I think it should be limited to
a 20 year term. In time for them to get social security and medicare.

FBaggins

(28,477 posts)
37. Would require a constitutional amendment
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

The closest we’ve been able to come is the “senior status” incentive. But it can’t be mandatory

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