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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo, Congress Didn't Permanently End Daylight Saving Time in Early 2022
Claim: A law was passed in March 2022 permanently ending Daylight Saving Time in the United States.
Rating: False
Context: Such a bill was indeed passed by the U.S. Senate but stalled in the House of Representatives, so as of this writing, Daylight Saving Time is still on the books for now.
On Nov. 6, 2022, Daylight Saving Time ended, once again, with clocks being turned back one hour, prompting confusion among some, because U.S. Congress had seemed poised to end the yearly time change earlier in the year.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-congress-didn-t-permanently-end-daylight-saving-time-in-early-2022/ar-AA13QueM

iemanja
(56,840 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,604 posts)Pelosi said it is not a priority and won't be brought up in the lame duck session. Too many other priorities.
markpkessinger
(8,859 posts). . . either the bill in question permanently ended Daylight Savings Time, or it made Daylight Savings Time permanent, Which is it? (I believe it was the latter.)
SCantiGOP
(14,604 posts)but some in the House want it just eliminated, and that is the holdup.
Polybius
(20,926 posts)Does Pelosi oppose it?
muriel_volestrangler
(104,892 posts)It wasn't seriously scrutinized or debated. It looked like some senatorial assistants saw a chance to get it through without the senators thinking about it. There wasn't a serious look as to whether going on to permanent 'normal' time would make more sense than permanent 'daylight savings' (when the middle of the day is about 1pm, rather than 12).
Polybius
(20,926 posts)That would be a cataclysmic nightmare for me. 7:30 sundown's in June? Yeah no.
rurallib
(64,197 posts)Polybius
(20,926 posts)You like it getting dark earlier?
rurallib
(64,197 posts)Plus I always feel like time and sun are out of sync with daylight time.
Polybius
(20,926 posts)I like it getting dark later, and I don't think dark mornings are a bad thing. They are kinda cool.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,381 posts)It'll get light very early.
markpkessinger
(8,859 posts)I was in the 7th grade. That winter, when we arrived at school around 8 a.m., it was still pitch black outside (didn't get light until close to 9!). It was AWFUL!
Renew Deal
(84,514 posts)They were surprised it wasn't done.
Xavier Breath
(6,160 posts)that some medical establishment types agreed with scuttling the time-change concept but felt that keeping permanent standard time was more in line with human circadian rhythms. Have to admit I'd prefer Standard time as well. Whichever is chosen I'm sure we'll hear "Won't someone please think of the children/farmers/roosters?!"
GoCubsGo
(34,405 posts)I just got done watching the video on this on their YouTube. I prefer Standard Time, as well, although, in the end, I'm in the "Pick one and stick with it" camp. The whole "too dark in the morning/evening" thing is kind of moot, because we wind up with periods on either end of the day that are lighter or darker than some would like, regardless of ST/DST, due to the seasons.
rurallib
(64,197 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)If this had passed it would had been front and center on the news.
mike_c
(36,774 posts)Especially since I'm teaching classes online in California. I get an extra hour of sleep in the morning because it's ten o'clock here when my 9:00 AM class begins there.
rurallib
(64,197 posts)except for the reservations.
I have a relative in Tucson. Whatever, they don't change time.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,892 posts)It's on Mountain Standard Time, which is GMT-7. That is centered on (15 degrees*7)=105 degrees West longitude, which stretches from 97.5W to 112.5W.
https://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/states/arizona/lat-long.html
Arizona is at about 109W at its eastern border, and about -115W at its west. So most of it (including Phoenix) is geographically in the Mountain Standard zone.
mike_c
(36,774 posts)...everywhere else. It's currently 12:15 PM in California, 1:15 PM in Arizona, and also 1:15 PM in Colorado. Beginning March 12 it will be 1:15 PM in California (PST daylight savings), 1:15 PM in Arizona (unchanged), and 2:15 in Colorado (MST daylight savings). Another way to think about it is that Arizona is on MST during winter and PST in summer.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,892 posts)which is not what the Senate voted for. Which is quite a good example about how the Senate vote was not properly thought through.
markpkessinger
(8,859 posts). . . Staying on standard time is one thing. Staying year round on Daylight saving time -- we tried that in 1974. I was in the 7th grade, and during the winter, it would be pitch black out when I arrived at school at 8 a.m. -- didn't get light out until close to 9 a.m.!
markpkessinger
(8,859 posts). . . Staying on standard time is one thing. Staying year round on Daylight saving time -- we tried that in 1974. I was in the 7th grade, and during the winter, it would be pitch black out when I arrived at school at 8 a.m. -- didn't get light out until close to 9 a.m.!
rurallib
(64,197 posts)Time changed from Memorial Day to Labor Day. Since Illinois was fully daylight time the counties on the Mississippi river usually changed. But not all of them. So if you were taking a little trip by the river you might have to change times a couple of times.
nattyice
(341 posts)markpkessinger
(8,859 posts)The bill that passed in the Senate and stalled in the Senate did not "permanently end Daylight Savings Time." Instead, it made Daylight Savings Time permanent year-round! If it ended anything, it ended Standard Time!