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babylonsister

(172,404 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:39 PM Jul 2022

Evidence exists to indict Trump for a '20-year felony': former US attorney

https://www.alternet.org/2022/07/trump-indictment/

Evidence exists to indict Trump for a '20-year felony': former US attorney
Tom Boggioni
and Raw Story
July 23, 2022

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'Is there an actual text or email from Trump ordering anyone to, sort of, literally breach the capitol and go attack lawmakers? and, if not, how crucial is that for trump as he faces the prospect of additional trials and scrutiny from the DOJ going forward?" Stein asked.

"Well, it's important to separate the two missions," McQuade began. "The one of Congress which is to tell the whole story, that one O of DOJ which is to prove the crimes."

"I have not heard the direct link that could make the case for seditious conspiracy for Donald Trump -- certainly lots of circumstantial evidence," she elaborated. "But I also think it does not matter, if they can prove other crimes, that will do the job."

'Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding is a 20-year felony, it's a very serious crime," she continued. "Thursday I did hear additional elements that advances the ball there. The DOJ has to go in and investigate all of the facts, they have to look at the other side and they have to anticipate every defense. They have to essentially disprove the negative that there is some explanation for all of this. But what we heard Thursday is really important to advancing that crime. Previously, it had been framed as a failure to act."
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Karadeniz

(24,659 posts)
3. Every Republican who tried to stop the electoral college count, especially those offering false
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jul 2022

votes, conspired to obstruct an official proceeding. So did the rioters. They all need to be rounded up and be given maximum sentences.

ancianita

(42,252 posts)
4. Right. Thursday proved it was NOT a failure to act; Trump's was an intentional act to do nothing.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:19 PM
Jul 2022

Trump conspired for months to obstruct, and then acted -- sat and watched, dialing Senators to obstruct while his plan for his mob to obstruct violently moved forward.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

ancianita

(42,252 posts)
10. Yes. He directed them to "fight like hell," knowing they were armed & would be violent. He meets
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 07:54 PM
Jul 2022

all the requirements -- violence being the last -- for being charged for seditious conspiracy.

Xipe Totec

(44,410 posts)
6. Not enough. We need something that will prevent him from holding office ever again.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jul 2022

We need a conviction on insurrection.

pansypoo53219

(22,630 posts)
12. whitewatergate/vincegate/emails. why hasn't the teevee gnewz muttered TRUMPGATE/DONALDGATE?
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 08:16 PM
Jul 2022

cause they want ratings the moron gives them. yes. our libral meeedia at werk.

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