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Why were Mothers Boys Secret Service detail calling their families to say goodbye?
What did they know?

halfulglas
(1,654 posts)This is riveting, and disturbing.
dalton99a
(90,852 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,184 posts)And they knew about pipe bombs and a crowd that was armed and storming the Capitol.
What else do they need?
chowder66
(11,454 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)And figured they were disposable.
Habitation
(5,716 posts)I imagine weeks prior they each lobbied hard to get switched to Mogul's detail.
Solly Mack
(95,872 posts)Rebl2
(17,109 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Realizations like that will shake even those thick necked acolytes of suicide worship.
FakeNoose
(39,082 posts)I think the Pence family and SS guys got down the stairs less than a minute before the mob broke in. Once they got down the stairs, they had to wait hours before everyone cleared out. I'm pretty sure that was near the time when Pence finally called the National Guard in to help the Capitol police.
The secret service guys who were guarding the Pences didn't know what the other guys were doing. They weren't part of the plot, as far as any of us know.
Going to Canada
(169 posts)I thought only the Commander In Chief could do that?
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,855 posts)I think most disturbing is that raw footage from January 7.
Gore1FL
(22,642 posts)moondust
(21,094 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 22, 2022, 01:21 AM - Edit history (1)
didn't they know there were weapons in the crowd? That there was a guy up in a tree with an AR-15? "I dont f care that they have weapons. Theyre not here to hurt me."
Pence's detail knew the (armed) mob would have to go through them to get to Pence.
MyMission
(2,008 posts)They were sworn to protect him, take a bullet, lay down their lives, and with the mob coming they would have to engage, put themselves between Pense and those gunning for him.
Going down in the line of duty must have seemed like a real and imminent possiblity.
Very chilling testimony.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Except, Hair Furor had many more crazies than Hitler launched. The Grotesque Orange Pustule wanted to go to the Capitol in order to declare victory amongst his people.
BTW, we don't know if the driver refusing to take the thing to the Capitol was doing so to protect his master or if he understood the threat to the nation.
catbyte
(38,088 posts)8 months of a 5-year sentence, just long enough to write Mein Kampf. We see how well that turned out for Germany and the planet. I hope Merrick Garland and the DOJ pick up a history book.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Good thing he can't read good or rite well.
The country is still asleep. Or there are way, WAY too many sympathizers among us.
I hope it's the former.
BUT prepared for the latter.
Cheers!
OMGWTF
(4,936 posts)kept a copy of Hitlers speeches in his nightstand.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)wnylib
(25,345 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 22, 2022, 06:19 AM - Edit history (1)
a former security officer for the Capitol. She explained that there are layers of security that they rely on for emergency situations. One is DC police backup. But the DC police were preoccupied with the mob. The NG were not present. The DC police and the Capitol police were outnumbered by the mob.
The SS detail had no way to ensure that there was a safe pathway out for them other than radio contact with officers or other security people. The SS could not see what was happening from where they were, but they could hear the chants to hang Mike Pence. They knew that if the mob found them or saw them leaving, they would be killed in order to capture Pence.
This is where Officer Goodman came into it, leading the mob away from Pence so the SS could get him out of there.
crickets
(26,166 posts)If Pence had died, the country might well have gone down with him.
wnylib
(25,345 posts)Officer Goodman was definitely one of them.
malaise
(290,349 posts)
Grins
(8,976 posts)Eff him.
sop
(16,521 posts)Blue Owl
(57,666 posts)Donald tRump is an insane, power-hungry, narcissistic, ego-maniac who seeks power at all costs -- including Mother's Boy's own life...
malaise
(290,349 posts)Id love Mother to speak as well