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samnsara

(18,769 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:46 PM Jun 2022

one of the white supremacists caught in Idaho is my neighbor!!

..this morning my dtr sends me the info and i look him up and Spencer Thomas Simpson. OMG 20 and he just effed up his life. I think this is the house we drive by going into town..a HUGE TRUMP 2024 flag which is usually all wrapped around a tree. We always call the herd of deer in their front yard the 'trump deer'. Anyway hes about about 5 miles from me ( which rural-ly speaking makes him my neighbor)..bet his parents are SO proud..and i cant wait for the local newspaper to show his traitor face on the front page..

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one of the white supremacists caught in Idaho is my neighbor!! (Original Post) samnsara Jun 2022 OP
No shock the racist and anti-American loser is a Trump cultist RAB910 Jun 2022 #1
Trump's "permission" to be outwardly racist and violent 🤬 electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #14
At 20 years old mercuryblues Jun 2022 #2
Don't leave it to chance gratuitous Jun 2022 #3
This! nt AKwannabe Jun 2022 #5
Hopefully... *was* your neighbor... Blue Owl Jun 2022 #4
Yes StarryNite Jun 2022 #6
The only charge is a misdemeanor James48 Jun 2022 #7
i thought they were being looked at barbtries Jun 2022 #10
slap on the wrist llashram Jun 2022 #18
At least they were stopped before they were able to hurt anyone. 2Gingersnaps Jun 2022 #19
They should add charges for packing people into the back of a uhaul truck IronLionZion Jun 2022 #20
a prosecutor isn't going to want to take 31 people to trial on this.... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #26
I bet they'll sue for violation of their constitutional right to assemble and protest. sop Jun 2022 #30
Yep Lithos Jun 2022 #34
I'd like to know all the names. barbtries Jun 2022 #8
The Sheriff's Departjent released their names Locutusofborg Jun 2022 #13
Thank you! barbtries Jun 2022 #21
To the posywr: post on social media for neighbors & others in town to see onetexan Jun 2022 #27
When I moved here in 1975, the panhandle was the more liberal part of Idaho. Ruby Ridge, Richard.... EarnestPutz Jun 2022 #15
back when mainstream internet providers hosted racist sites like Stormfront.. I'd peruse Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #37
Names and Mug Shots with locations. They came from as far as Alabama. Lochloosa Jun 2022 #41
Outing them is the important part. The world knowing their names and faces. Tagging them like deer ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #46
They have been charged with a misdemeanor. Jail is unlikely unless they 33taw Jun 2022 #9
the only thing that will come of this barbtries Jun 2022 #22
that's the law in idaho..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #28
my thought from the very beginning stopdiggin Jun 2022 #38
Has U-Haul banned them for life? Sneederbunk Jun 2022 #11
If not they should! Initech Jun 2022 #23
Hahahahahahahahaha not fooled Jun 2022 #35
Ryder trucks were associated with Timothy McVeigh IronLionZion Jun 2022 #42
In fact Ryder changed its truck color from yellow to white. Sneederbunk Jun 2022 #44
Many Americans think terrorists are from somewhere else far away IronLionZion Jun 2022 #12
Time to equate the Trump flag luvtheGWN Jun 2022 #17
You'll need to alert the Ellensburg Daily Record yourself, because they probably DGAF. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #16
Twenty years old. calimary Jun 2022 #24
unfortunately, I don't think he f'd up his life nearly far enough.... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #25
"Winston North Durham" Gee, I wonder where his parents Ilsa Jun 2022 #29
Maybe his sister's name is Charlotte Raleigh IronLionZion Jun 2022 #43
Good one! :-) nt Ilsa Jun 2022 #45
Slap on the wrist indeed. screamcheese Jun 2022 #31
They are ALL someone's neighbor. Aussie105 Jun 2022 #32
Overall, I see more attention to the "well regulated militia" part of 2A going on. ancianita Jun 2022 #33
I agree with the posters genxlib Jun 2022 #36
time to move... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #39
Looks like a real winner... Lochloosa Jun 2022 #40

mercuryblues

(16,425 posts)
2. At 20 years old
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

I'm betting he lives with his parents and they are proud. If they express any anger, itis because their kid got caught, not over what he was planning on doing.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Don't leave it to chance
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jun 2022

If you know anyone on the staff of the local paper, point out Mr. Simpson for his part in that clown show.

James48

(5,215 posts)
7. The only charge is a misdemeanor
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jun 2022

Of “criminal conspiracy to riot”.

I doubt that even if convicted, any of them will get more than time served at the time they are tried and convicted. It’s also a stretch- as no actual riot occurred, so they likely would not get the top end if the punishment- which, in this case, is up to a year in jail, and/or a $5,000 fine.

And the jury will be of people from Idaho. So, that’s in play as well.



We shall see.

barbtries

(31,309 posts)
10. i thought they were being looked at
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:14 PM
Jun 2022

for hate crimes? certainly should be. but then the police who pulled them in probably sympathize with them.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
19. At least they were stopped before they were able to hurt anyone.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:41 PM
Jun 2022

Which leads me to wonder, the guy who went after Justice Beer Bong, his weapon was unloaded and he called the cops on himself. He was unable to follow through on any threat he might have thought of inflicting. Wonder what his disposition will be?

IronLionZion

(51,279 posts)
20. They should add charges for packing people into the back of a uhaul truck
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jun 2022

that should be some sort of safety violation.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
26. a prosecutor isn't going to want to take 31 people to trial on this....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:31 PM
Jun 2022

They will likely go for pre-trial probation. No trial, no convictions - as long as they stay clean for a year or so.

sop

(18,647 posts)
30. I bet they'll sue for violation of their constitutional right to assemble and protest.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jun 2022

Lithos

(26,638 posts)
34. Yep
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jun 2022

But it allowed them to be detained so as to not cause trouble. Which is probably the smartest thing the police could do given their options.

barbtries

(31,309 posts)
8. I'd like to know all the names.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jun 2022

I have family in and around Cour d'alene and my niece's ex FIL and one of his brothers were arrested a lot of years ago for an attempted lynching IIRC.
also though I love my niece she's an unrepentant racist, covid denier, anti vaxxer...my sister has Alzheimer's and she's her caretaker so I will not cut ties with her at this point. But that area of ID, probably most of ID in fact, pretty damn racist.

What's ironic about my niece is that she moved to WA because they have the Medicaid expansion. For her health! Wasn't too proud to turn that down!

barbtries

(31,309 posts)
21. Thank you!
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jun 2022

gonna check that out. though i read somewhere that only one of them was from ID?

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
27. To the posywr: post on social media for neighbors & others in town to see
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jun 2022

So he'll be exposed as the asshat be is.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
15. When I moved here in 1975, the panhandle was the more liberal part of Idaho. Ruby Ridge, Richard....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

....Butler's Aryan Nations and the "American Redoubt Movement" changed all that for the worse. Southern Idaho is still very Mormon and very conservative and the state, in general was Trump's biggest supporters, bar none.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
37. back when mainstream internet providers hosted racist sites like Stormfront.. I'd peruse
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:24 AM
Jun 2022

the comments. one of the biggest topics was where to move away from POC...."I'm starting to see mudpeople in my neighborhood where do I move?". Idaho was one of the suggestions... I would assume it's getting concentrated with racists.

Lochloosa

(16,737 posts)
41. Names and Mug Shots with locations. They came from as far as Alabama.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jun 2022

Picture wouldn't post, but here's the link


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ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
46. Outing them is the important part. The world knowing their names and faces. Tagging them like deer
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:45 PM
Jun 2022

in the forest so we can follow their activities and keep and eye on them.

33taw

(3,344 posts)
9. They have been charged with a misdemeanor. Jail is unlikely unless they
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jun 2022

have prior convictions and they are violating parole or probation.

barbtries

(31,309 posts)
22. the only thing that will come of this
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:16 PM
Jun 2022

is that their compatriots will see them as heroes. Misdemeanor charges when they were all dressed up in riot gear with weapons?!

I think their bail is $300. disgusting.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
28. that's the law in idaho.....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:41 PM
Jun 2022

It varies by state, but to be a felony in idaho the riot would have to have been planned at a penal institute, or have involved greater than $500 in damages, and/or possibly personal injury.

All rolled up, it isn't really that egregious an offense in and of itself.

Yes, they are white supremacist's. Yes, they were targeting an event that was LGBTQ related out of shear hatred. Yes, they are miserable people.

But being any of that isn't against the law in itself. Just as being a member of antifa or blm or the aclu is not illegal (yet).

And no real violence occurred. Luckily.

So strictly from a proportional legal penalty, the punishment is appropriate here. As much as we don't like it (and I don't), if the tables were turned and they nabbed a bunch of pro-choice activists heading to protest a right wing parade, I wouldn't want them to be sent away for life either.

So while it is frustrating that the penalties are so low, they are appropriate. IMHO, of course.

Now if there is a civil rights angle here, it should be pursued.

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
38. my thought from the very beginning
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jun 2022

this probably isn't going anywhere (sadly). But the material facts just don't add up to a great deal. Kudos to the police for acting preemptively here - but they just don't have much in the way of 'crime' in which to charge.

not fooled

(6,684 posts)
35. Hahahahahahahahaha
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:24 AM
Jun 2022

This isn't the first time U-Haul trucks have been used to transport white suprematurds to planned violent events. Talk about bad publicity!

IronLionZion

(51,279 posts)
42. Ryder trucks were associated with Timothy McVeigh
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe Uhaul doesn't want to be known as transport of choice for terrorists

IronLionZion

(51,279 posts)
12. Many Americans think terrorists are from somewhere else far away
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jun 2022

and not the folks down the street with the Trump flag

maxsolomon

(38,739 posts)
16. You'll need to alert the Ellensburg Daily Record yourself, because they probably DGAF.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

Inmate Name: SIMPSON, SPENCER THOMAS AGE: 20
Address: 6051 MANASTASH RD, ELLENBURG, WA 98926
Statute Offense Description Jud. Status Bond Amt. Remaining
18-1701 Criminal Conspiracy J1 $300.00

He lives right by the Manastash Ridge Trailhead. American Flag at the roadside on Google Street View.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
25. unfortunately, I don't think he f'd up his life nearly far enough....
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jun 2022

He is charged with a misdemeaner. In Idaho.

He will likely not even serve time. With no record, and no weapons found, and no violence occurring, he will likely get pre-trial probation. That would result in no conviction and no jail time.

At most he won't be able to get a security clearance for a while. Some employers might decide not to hire him, depending on their screening criteria. Others won't even pause at it.

But in general pre-trial probation with no conviction will fade quickly.

 

screamcheese

(81 posts)
31. Slap on the wrist indeed.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jun 2022

They have all since posted bond, which was set at $300 per person. Since they did so, their court dates will be pushed back to a later date. They are all free to leave the state and can return home.

Coeur d’Alene Police say this is common with misdemeanor charges. A warrant will be put out for their arrests if they do not appear at their scheduled court date.

Those future court dates have not yet been set.

PS. One of these jackasses lives in my neck of the woods. Louisville, Colorado.

Aussie105

(7,929 posts)
32. They are ALL someone's neighbor.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:56 PM
Jun 2022

Just being your next door neighbor brings it all home to you.

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
36. I agree with the posters
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:08 AM
Jun 2022

Saying there are really only misdemeanors that will not take them out of polite society nearly long enough

Unless….

Maybe this is grounds for subpoenas that will lead investigators to commucations and other evidence that they were up to much worse. If nothing else, I hope they give them a thorough enema to make sure they weren’t.

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