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Midnight Writer

(24,940 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:12 PM Jun 2022

Talked to clerk at local P.O. telling me local Amazon Delivery Services have stopped operating.

He told me that the Post Office parcel volume just took a multi-fold jump because the Amazon Delivery people (the tall vans) in town have stopped working due to high gas prices and unrealistic workloads. The Amazon delivery folks have to buy particular vans mandated by Amazon and have to reach Amazon delivery quotas that they can't handle.

In addition, he said Fedex is no longer handling Amazon packages and UPS is flooding the Post Office with "last mile" deliveries to cut down on their fuel costs.

And now that the Post Office have cut staff so much in the last few years, they are having trouble handling the volume, as well as getting hammered by gas prices.

So, if you're wondering why the Amazon vans and UPS deliveries are disappearing and your mail is running late(r), this might help explain the problem.

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Talked to clerk at local P.O. telling me local Amazon Delivery Services have stopped operating. (Original Post) Midnight Writer Jun 2022 OP
Gotta get those electric delivery vehicles built Beachnutt Jun 2022 #1
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Jun 2022 #23
DeJoy still being in charge at the PO is biting us again. brush Jun 2022 #2
He's been there TWO YEARS now ‼️ live love laugh Jun 2022 #54
I haven't noticed. Novara Jun 2022 #3
Me too. Constantly. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #7
Me three Jerry2144 Jun 2022 #16
See them go Rebl2 Jun 2022 #14
Several times a day on my residential street. nt Nittersing Jun 2022 #17
Same here - every day PatSeg Jun 2022 #19
I dodged three of the four on my walk this morning... Hugin Jun 2022 #31
same here LymphocyteLover Jun 2022 #38
Ahhh! That explains why I am getting strange messages about Amazon delays. Solomon Jun 2022 #4
Refunds shanti Jun 2022 #49
This week I've received both Amazon and P.O deliveries. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #5
A clerk at a PO probably knows very little about the USPS network. Scruffy1 Jun 2022 #6
It's easy for a clerk to know if mgmt. communicates it. live love laugh Jun 2022 #55
Diesel +1$/gal More Than Gas modrepub Jun 2022 #8
I haven't received any Amazon packages in over a week PXR-5 Jun 2022 #9
No they didn't inthewind21 Jun 2022 #10
My Prime cost went up but PXR-5 Jun 2022 #37
The price change already took effect whopis01 Jun 2022 #44
Once upon a time, a long long time ago, we all got by with deliveries that took a week or two. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #11
So true Rebl2 Jun 2022 #15
Allow four to six weeks for delivery. HootieMcBoob Jun 2022 #21
The bad ole days. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #35
Americans don't do "delayed gratification". llmart Jun 2022 #28
One of my favorite books as a kid was Where the Red Fern Grows meadowlander Jun 2022 #45
I see Amazon trucks everywhere FelineOverlord Jun 2022 #12
This sounds like it's local. I get my pkgs. live love laugh Jun 2022 #56
Doesn't Amazon pay for the vans and gas? IronLionZion Jun 2022 #13
Agreed. We know Bezos is a jerkhole, but OMGWTF Jun 2022 #26
Why is Bezos a "jerk hole"? live love laugh Jun 2022 #57
Nope. GB_RN Jun 2022 #27
I hate that so much IronLionZion Jun 2022 #29
Probably not. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #39
I use an Amazon hub for my deliveries MissB Jun 2022 #18
I use an AMAZON hub too. They may still bne delivering to those Captain Zero Jun 2022 #20
Ha! MissB Jun 2022 #47
Hmmm, mine had a 3 DAY window progree Jun 2022 #33
It's a small Whole Foods store MissB Jun 2022 #46
Thanks for the info -- there is a Whole Foods a 24 min bus trip away (plus 11 min progree Jun 2022 #50
This past week UPS lost my new iPhone. RedSpartan Jun 2022 #22
And USPS fooked up my Apple Watch delivery. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #40
And Amazon never offers the choice of who delivers, so its a crap shoot progree Jun 2022 #43
They're delivering here. Just saw one go past radical noodle Jun 2022 #24
It depends on location. They stopped rural delivery because of costs. 33taw Jun 2022 #25
I'm very rural and UPS is delivering in NM womanofthehills Jun 2022 #51
Nice! 33taw Jun 2022 #53
Not here in Canada and our gas prices are higher. Bev54 Jun 2022 #30
Everything falls on the postal service wryter2000 Jun 2022 #32
My sister in law Old Crank Jun 2022 #34
Thanks! I'd wondered why a few recent Amazon orders had been delivered by UPS and USPS. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #36
Delivery has been good here in SE PA mvd Jun 2022 #41
Supposedly those vans were to convert to electric. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2022 #42
Yes shanti Jun 2022 #48
Everything's about normal here in the Land Beyond O'Hare. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2022 #52
We are still getting all amazon deliveries Meowmee Jun 2022 #58

live love laugh

(16,026 posts)
54. He's been there TWO YEARS now ‼️
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

And is poised to interfere with the Fall elections.

He HAS to go ‼️‼️

Hugin

(37,044 posts)
31. I dodged three of the four on my walk this morning...
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jun 2022

The fourth should arrive any minute.

Solomon

(12,619 posts)
4. Ahhh! That explains why I am getting strange messages about Amazon delays.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jun 2022

I get a message tracking my shipment nearby and telling me that its on time, and then all of a sudden, shipment delay, as though the shipment was never picked up from its original point.

I kept thinking, how can they act like something happened to the shipment when for two days they were sending me messages telling me that it was picked up and on the way and will be delivered on time, ... its not that far away according to their messages but now they are telling me that if I don't receive it in two more days I can get a refund.

shanti

(21,769 posts)
49. Refunds
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

I got a message like that too, and what I did was cancel the order and place another one at the same time. I got the newer order with no delay.

Scruffy1

(3,466 posts)
6. A clerk at a PO probably knows very little about the USPS network.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

It's a very complex system and involves a lot of connections with UPS and Fedex. I ordered 2 of the same item and one came by USPS and the UPS on the same day. As for as Amazon delivery drivers anyone who contracts for delivery without a floating fuel charge deserves to go broke.

modrepub

(3,952 posts)
8. Diesel +1$/gal More Than Gas
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

In my area gas is $5/gal versus $6.25/gal for diesel. I know some areas in the Midwest diesel is on par with gas price or maybe lower.

I've also wondered what the impact of multiple layers of speculative buying has on gas prices. It always seems that as the price of oil goes up or is deemed to have to go up, the number of speculators who purchase contracts with no intent on actually taking delivery seems to ramp up. Having fuel contracts change hands multiple times can't be good for consumers.

PXR-5

(549 posts)
9. I haven't received any Amazon packages in over a week
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jun 2022

What's sad is most are for Wifey's birthday and I can't buy them locally

A total of 6 packages, all said 2 day delivery. If I don't get them in another few days I will cancel and CANCEL Prime!

They raised the cost of Prime to cover the gas, so, what's up?

If punks can afford gas for their huge pick-ups, then Bozos can afford fuel for his space ships and vans.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
10. No they didn't
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jun 2022

The increase for prime was announced LONG before gas shot up and it doesn't take effect until next year.

whopis01

(3,898 posts)
44. The price change already took effect
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

It changed on February 18th for new customers and March 25th for existing customers.

Happy Hoosier

(9,190 posts)
35. The bad ole days.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jun 2022

I do really relish the fact that when I need a part or supplies, I can get them in a couple days. Especially since my local options are filled with low-quality crap.

llmart

(17,008 posts)
28. Americans don't do "delayed gratification".
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jun 2022

They want everything and they want it right now! That's why they get bored so easily and have short attention spans.

meadowlander

(5,018 posts)
45. One of my favorite books as a kid was Where the Red Fern Grows
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

Where the kid saves up chore monney for months to buy two puppies and then has to camp out at the General Store every day for months waiting for them to arrive.

That's how I feel about the new laptop I just ordered that's coming in August hopefully.

But sometimes anticipation can heighten enjoyment.

OMGWTF

(4,945 posts)
26. Agreed. We know Bezos is a jerkhole, but
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jun 2022

I find it really hard to believe they make their employees buy the vans and pay for gas.

Happy Hoosier

(9,190 posts)
39. Probably not.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jun 2022

They probably pay based on the load.

I mean, If I were Amazon, I would NOT want to have cost+ contracts. Too unpredictable. One of the primary reasons to outsource is off-load risk to the subcontractor.

And subcontractors compete based on price.

I mean, I know it's popular to shit on Amazon and Bezos here, and there is some justification for that. But someone is running these subcontractors and THEY are the ones who chose to take on the risk.

MissB

(16,340 posts)
18. I use an Amazon hub for my deliveries
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jun 2022

Mostly because I have two dogs, one of which is highly protective. My yard is fenced and gated and I have a sign out that says to leave the packages here (at a spot outside the gate).

And yet Amazon delivery folks would consistently go inside the gate. I tired of that, and now shift my deliveries to arrive at the hub. It’s fine if things are slower in arriving, as I group my pickups with other errands. The hub holds the items for 3 weeks, so I generally let things sit.

Also, I can do without some stuff

Captain Zero

(8,585 posts)
20. I use an AMAZON hub too. They may still bne delivering to those
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:18 PM
Jun 2022

an area where they have cut out trucks on the street.
Mine is inside a Mall entry way near me.

Pretty easy I go right by it for other things so it is easy to stop at.
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progree

(12,484 posts)
33. Hmmm, mine had a 3 DAY window
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jun 2022

and actually, according to their alerts and emails, consisted of a partial day plus 2 full days, not a partial day plus 3 full days like their website led me to believe. Like I'd get an alert at 4pm Monday that it was delivered and I had to pick it up by Wednesday end of day.

This was back in October. I haven't used one since.

I would very happily use an Amazon locker location if I had a 3 weeks window (even one week window would be great), but sometimes 2 1/2 days just did not work out or was very inconvenient (I don't have a car and its 3 miles away).

Usually I order about 6 items and they get delivered in 3 or 4 separate deliveries (sigh), even though I do the free delivery which has the longest estimated delivery times (I'm not a Prime member). I would think that would give them the maximal opportunity to group items together for the smallest number of deliveries, thus saving them delivery expenses, and would help a little bit with the dire greenhouse gas disaster situation. But I would be mistaken, apparently.

If I had a 3 week window, that would be plenty of time for all the separate deliveries to be made, and I could pick them up in one trip (usually the 3 or 4 separate deliveries occur within a week of the first one's arrival).

MissB

(16,340 posts)
46. It's a small Whole Foods store
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jun 2022

They have a section of a back store room for holding stuff. Once I arrive, I click the “get pickup code” and the workers in the back load it into a locker.

It may be that your hub doesn’t have the storage space.

progree

(12,484 posts)
50. Thanks for the info -- there is a Whole Foods a 24 min bus trip away (plus 11 min
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:46 PM
Jun 2022

walk to the bus stop = 35 min each way). But if would be worth it if they have a 3 week window, and so it would be one trip.

The hub I used (once), has maybe 30 lockers on the outside wall of a gas station-minimarket.



RedSpartan

(1,766 posts)
22. This past week UPS lost my new iPhone.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jun 2022

(No, it wasn't stolen, Verizon can tell if it's been activated.)

There's a good reason UPS is pronouned "Oops!"

Happy Hoosier

(9,190 posts)
40. And USPS fooked up my Apple Watch delivery.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jun 2022

Somehow it was in my town and became "undeliverable."

My guess is the package became too damaged to deliver.

And then they were telling me it would 2 weeks to get a replacement. Ugh.

I cancelled the order and got one at Best Buy (they went on sale and it was the same price as Amazon)

progree

(12,484 posts)
43. And Amazon never offers the choice of who delivers, so its a crap shoot
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:05 PM
Jun 2022

my orders are usually 6 or 7 items, and they usually come in like 3 or 4 deliveries (even though I choose the option with the longest estimated delivery time, sigh, giving them the maximal opportunity to group items into the fewest shipments, but oh well). And there are usually 3 separate carriers involved -- USPS, UPS, Fedex, Amazon, yada.

So I have to learn to live with and learn about the foibles of all the delivery services.

33taw

(3,248 posts)
25. It depends on location. They stopped rural delivery because of costs.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jun 2022

Most larger cities still use Amazon delivery trucks.

Bev54

(12,997 posts)
30. Not here in Canada and our gas prices are higher.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jun 2022

I was just driving home from the clinic and 5 Amazon vans surrounded me on the freeway, so they are still running here.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
32. Everything falls on the postal service
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

So much for business being better than government. The wonderful postal service even sent me eight free Covid tests.

Old Crank

(6,363 posts)
34. My sister in law
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jun 2022

Is in a small country area. The UPS and other delivery services handed off delivery to USPS because of the limited orders and travel distances. It is much easier and cheaper to deliver in high density areas than having to drive 50 miles for a handful of stops.

mvd

(65,761 posts)
41. Delivery has been good here in SE PA
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:59 PM
Jun 2022

There have been a few more shipment delays this year than before, but they get here.

shanti

(21,769 posts)
48. Yes
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jun 2022

I have noticed that my Amazon deliveries are taking longer than they used to, and I'm often not given a delivery date when ordering. Hmmmm.

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