The Young Turks reportage on how MUSK is "big fan of cancel culture"

[UTUSN]

[Caliman73]

1. There is no such thing as absolute free speech.

Anyone who says they are an absolutist about free speech is a liar.

There are certainly levels of support and some go further than others but everyone has limits and everyone is on one side or another and the tendency is to support the side you are on and the likelihood is that people would support limits on attacks against their own side.

As they say, Musk has leveraged power to halt attacks on the products that have made him wealthy. He tries to attack critics. He wants to be seen as some sort of nuetral but he isn't and any insistance on the lie, just makes him look foolish.

[UTUSN]

2. Thank you. I got razzed by respected members here for my severe distrust of him.

Their ground was that we should *stay* to debate the wingnuts at Twitter because it's a "prominent" public space. I've never paid attention to him beyond the stick-in-the-eye stunts that make it through all filters down to my level of awareness, but aside from whatever mental and material success I've heard about I've also heard some bizarre things, and my wingnut and anti-authoritarian antennae are set off vibrating/shaking/orgasming-not-in-a-good-way at his being the ONE/ONLY voice about anything - whether about Mars, electric, or dictating rules to whatever new woman is around his five kids. "It" just REPELS me - "it" being him as embodiment of ALL-deciding.

My coming-from on the staying-leaving is that with him being the Law on "free speech," the site will be a hermit kingdom of Wingnuts (only), that "debating" them is FUTILE, who among us are going to be on 24-hours Watch to "counter" all the slime? Who's going to maintain the Duty Roster? It will crumble as an all-Wingnut place down to the level of Free Republic, Breitbart, or whatever.

[Bettie]

3. What those people are actually saying is

"I should get to say whatever I want to with not pushback or repercussions because....FREEDOM OF SPEECH!"

Of course they usually also believe that anyone criticizing THEM should be silenced.

[Caliman73]

4. Exactly.

They love to decry censorship when they receive natural consequences of their stupid speech, then they turn around and call for boycotts when someone says something they do not like.