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I have seen them interview some Russians that back Putin. They are just like doc03 Mar 2022 #1
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I have both family and friends in Ireland. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #12
+1. The old credibility problem! FSogol Mar 2022 #22
... demmiblue Mar 2022 #2
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... demmiblue Mar 2022 #8
Give any amount of freedom of speech we have now Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #3
No. WarGamer Mar 2022 #5
So what's your plan? LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #7
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You seem to have meant restricting freedom of speech iemanja Mar 2022 #25
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I took a formal declaration of war but Father Coughlin was forced off the radio DBoon Mar 2022 #14
I disagree Kaleva Mar 2022 #11
Too many to detain, too soft in their lifestyle to be much good for anything bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #13
Hmmm. Welcome to DU. mahina Mar 2022 #15
What freedoms would those be? blogslug Mar 2022 #16
Who gets to keep the right to free speech and who doesn't? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #17
Can Republicans restrict your rights until you come to your senses? Sympthsical Mar 2022 #18
Nah, Karma13612 Mar 2022 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #21
Good discussion.. Deuxcents Mar 2022 #32
Which enemy sarisataka Mar 2022 #20
Which enemy? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #23
Keep freedom of speech. Impose real consequences for people who lie. meadowlander Mar 2022 #24
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FOX tries to have it both ways under the law. To their fans they allegedly give "fair and balanced"... Hekate Mar 2022 #34
Freedom of speech includes the freedom to lie. nt. Mariana Mar 2022 #36
Are you free to libel someone without consequences?Are you free to divulge national security secrets Hekate Mar 2022 #38
There are some exceptions, but generally, we are free to lie. nt. Mariana Mar 2022 #40
Consequences always await the liar, because others are also *free* exact them... Hekate Mar 2022 #41
I say we use the Wyoming Rule. taxi Mar 2022 #26
Which is? Hekate Mar 2022 #39
It's not pleasant to contemplate Disaffected Mar 2022 #28
So we should kowtow to the GQP? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2022 #29
...cities? Iggo Mar 2022 #30
No, thank you. Regulate FOX news (which lies 24/7) and remove hate radio from the Armed Forces Hekate Mar 2022 #31
Are you concerned about being "popular" here? BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #33
I know... Hekate Mar 2022 #35
Will our oligarch's sacrifice some of their freedoms? jalan48 Mar 2022 #37

doc03

(38,504 posts)
1. I have seen them interview some Russians that back Putin. They are just like
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:16 PM
Mar 2022

the Republicans here that watch Fox Nooz, totally brainwashed.

Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
12. I have both family and friends in Ireland.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

You don’t sound very Irish with that attitude.

FSogol

(47,454 posts)
22. +1. The old credibility problem!
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:59 PM
Mar 2022

demmiblue

(38,807 posts)
2. ...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
Mar 2022

Response to demmiblue (Reply #2)

demmiblue

(38,807 posts)
8. ...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:21 PM
Mar 2022

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
3. Give any amount of freedom of speech we have now
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
Mar 2022

and if the republicans take over Fox News will be the only news channel on your TV.

WarGamer

(18,017 posts)
5. No.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
Mar 2022
 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
7. So what's your plan?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:21 PM
Mar 2022

And how will it be passed and implemented?

Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #7)

iemanja

(56,931 posts)
25. You seem to have meant restricting freedom of speech
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:00 PM
Mar 2022

which will do absolutely nothing to help Ukrainians.

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DBoon

(24,379 posts)
14. I took a formal declaration of war but Father Coughlin was forced off the radio
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:29 PM
Mar 2022

Kaleva

(40,015 posts)
11. I disagree
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

Counter disinformation with information

bucolic_frolic

(52,781 posts)
13. Too many to detain, too soft in their lifestyle to be much good for anything
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:25 PM
Mar 2022

How to stop their caravans? Plus they have 90% of the guns.

mahina

(20,094 posts)
15. Hmmm. Welcome to DU.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:29 PM
Mar 2022

blogslug

(39,027 posts)
16. What freedoms would those be?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:44 PM
Mar 2022

Not fond of that scare-word phrasing.

Personally, I would like to amend the Communications Act to reign in some of the FCC oversight lost as a result of the 1984 Cable Communications Act and the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
17. Who gets to keep the right to free speech and who doesn't?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

And who decides?

If we decide to become like them, they have won. And you are not getting your free speech back.

Sympthsical

(10,734 posts)
18. Can Republicans restrict your rights until you come to your senses?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:52 PM
Mar 2022

If not, why not?

Karma13612

(4,839 posts)
19. Nah,
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:53 PM
Mar 2022

The best thing is to flood the airwaves, TV and social media with truth.

We need to get better at confronting the lies and disputing them with truth. Loud and proud.

I am not giving up my right to free speech.

But, yea, maybe we need a way to make those who lie face consequences. We could start by telling people that they are lying when they are. I am sick of people who use milder accusations when someone lies like: “That is misleading” or “Those are alternative facts” or “Thats not completely accurate”.

Come right out and say: “You are lying”.



And as someone else just mentioned, Welcome to DU. I hope your time here is enjoyable and inspiring.

Response to Karma13612 (Reply #19)

Deuxcents

(24,375 posts)
32. Good discussion..
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:04 PM
Mar 2022

Free speech is a double edge sword. I enjoy my right to voice my opinion n believe we all should. What I am against is purposely putting out fictional information to sway, confuse or corrupt the narrative. If these “facts” are proven false, they should be made to say so..but..it’s already out there n most wont see the retraction. Most don’t care or know how to search for the truth..they just take the pablum and believe it.

sarisataka

(22,053 posts)
20. Which enemy
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:57 PM
Mar 2022

And how will we know when they are defeated?

Or will this be temporary like the "Patriot" Act?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,818 posts)
23. Which enemy?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:00 PM
Mar 2022

meadowlander

(5,008 posts)
24. Keep freedom of speech. Impose real consequences for people who lie.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:00 PM
Mar 2022

Response to meadowlander (Reply #24)

Hekate

(99,807 posts)
34. FOX tries to have it both ways under the law. To their fans they allegedly give "fair and balanced"...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:09 PM
Mar 2022

…. news reports. In a court of law they claim what they do is “entertainment” and so not subject to regulation.

I say: regulate the hell out of them. They are a propaganda network on behalf of a foreign adversary/foreign enemy.

Mariana

(15,606 posts)
36. Freedom of speech includes the freedom to lie. nt.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:11 PM
Mar 2022

Hekate

(99,807 posts)
38. Are you free to libel someone without consequences?Are you free to divulge national security secrets
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:17 PM
Mar 2022

…without consequences? Are you free to yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater without consequences?

Mariana

(15,606 posts)
40. There are some exceptions, but generally, we are free to lie. nt.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:29 PM
Mar 2022





Hekate

(99,807 posts)
41. Consequences always await the liar, because others are also *free* exact them...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:39 PM
Mar 2022

Liars get fired, shunned, and prosecuted all the time.

Murdoch has more money than God, and Trump has the Devil’s own luck. But for the rest of us, there are consequences…

taxi

(2,576 posts)
26. I say we use the Wyoming Rule.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:02 PM
Mar 2022

Hekate

(99,807 posts)
39. Which is?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:17 PM
Mar 2022

Disaffected

(5,950 posts)
28. It's not pleasant to contemplate
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:33 PM
Mar 2022

but yeah, it may ultimately come to that. At some point the good outweighs the harm.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,410 posts)
29. So we should kowtow to the GQP?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:51 PM
Mar 2022

I'll pass.

Iggo

(49,282 posts)
30. ...cities?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Mar 2022

Hekate

(99,807 posts)
31. No, thank you. Regulate FOX news (which lies 24/7) and remove hate radio from the Armed Forces
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:03 PM
Mar 2022

That would be a good start in cleaning up our airwaves and our national ability to talk to one another. I don’t think doing that counts as suppression of free speech at all, given how incredibly destructive they are.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
33. Are you concerned about being "popular" here?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:05 PM
Mar 2022

Interesting…

Hekate

(99,807 posts)
35. I know...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:11 PM
Mar 2022

sniff sniff

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
37. Will our oligarch's sacrifice some of their freedoms?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:12 PM
Mar 2022
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