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Q: Who was in charge of FCC when this 5G/altimeter problem should have been addressed? (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Jan 2022 OP
K&R, I pray the Biden admin can get ahead of messaging on this one. They switched to the uponit7771 Jan 2022 #1
I've come to believe a solid 35% of our adult population has lost touch with reality. CrispyQ Jan 2022 #2
The M$M isn't helping BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #6
Hey people DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #9
Agreed but... BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #12
You are so right, thank you DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #14
Thank you for the recommendation! BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #15
I need to rewatch it every so often. DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #16
I think you might be referring to Barbara Trent's "The Panama Deception" Bongo Prophet Jan 2022 #17
You are totally correct......sorry (old mind) DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #18
Considering DownriverDem Jan 2022 #7
By flooding info mediums with their narrative *FIRST*. The "its the M$M" is scapegoating, we need to uponit7771 Jan 2022 #10
5G didn't exactly sneak up on us. 11 Bravo Jan 2022 #3
The FAA didn't wait. Their concerns were expressed by 2019. pnwmom Jan 2022 #11
Hey, maybe they can reclaim the old 3G bandwidth when cell phones expire. 🤣 TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #4
Canada has 5G already TrogL Jan 2022 #5
TFG's buddies took lots of money to sell those frequency bands IronLionZion Jan 2022 #8
The FCC was under this Ajit Pai punk in 2017 Submariner Jan 2022 #13

uponit7771

(93,305 posts)
1. K&R, I pray the Biden admin can get ahead of messaging on this one. They switched to the
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jan 2022

... Europe model but didn't get all the airports .. that's not Biden's fault but of course without getting in front of this story it'll BECOME Biden's fault.

CrispyQ

(40,341 posts)
2. I've come to believe a solid 35% of our adult population has lost touch with reality.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jan 2022

They are going to believe what they want to believe. You can't talk sense into them. Facts don't matter. Right wing media & social media have made the problem so much worse.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
6. The M$M isn't helping
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jan 2022

I haven’t seen a positive story about President Biden in months. The beast is fully behind the traitorous Red Hat brigade.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
9. Hey people
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jan 2022

the mainstream media, in the U.S. is 80+% owned by Republicans. Is it any wonder why Trump and Republicans are represented as good, and Biden and the Dems are bad????????????

Most of us have said: "It is like they are brainwashed"

The psychiatrists now tend to agree that watching nothing but Fox News and listening to RW radio for ten years causes this phenomenon of tunnel Republican vision. No different that "re-education camps in Communist, Fascist controlled countries for dissenters......
The most famous being PRAVDA news in Russia for decades........

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Agreed but...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jan 2022

It’s not just FOX. Most network news is now riding the “Sleepy Joe” meme and whipping it hard. Unplugging the media machine is a good start. Telling the M$M you have zero confidence in their “We hate Biden” agenda and you have switched off is even better.

Fewer eyes equal fewer dollars in their pockets.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
14. You are so right, thank you
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jan 2022

and hence my first sentence. We have the most censored and biased news of many country's press and tv.....

I first became aware of it while watching the Documentary The Panama Invasion, many decades ago.

It's on Netflix, you should watch it. What our media was telling us was 180 degrees from the actions by our military in reality....
The documentary shows what was really happening by showing what other countries around the world were reporting......
Honestly, it made me nauseated...........I have studied the U.S. Press/Media continuously since then. It is despicable what the Republican owned MSM reports on, and how they report on it........

I really resent that I, as an American, have to use the internet to see what other countries are reporting about happenings in the U.S.
For instance there were several great, very telling articles, in the Guardian this past week.......

I watch this once a month:

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. Thank you for the recommendation!
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 09:08 PM
Jan 2022

My wife will be watching it soon. That Jeff Daniels clip is beyond a doubt the most honest thing I’ve seen on American TV, maybe ever.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
16. I need to rewatch it every so often.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 09:13 PM
Jan 2022

The Panama Invasion Video, and the cover up that our government chose to tell us, was/is incredibly revealing. When they made it, I wasn't able to get it anywhere here in the U.S. (surprise, surprise) and had to get a copy from Europe and have the video re-formatted to our VCR machines....

Bongo Prophet

(2,737 posts)
17. I think you might be referring to Barbara Trent's "The Panama Deception"
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jan 2022

Agreed, it is a well-done doc. We saw it in a theater, with Ms. Trent answering questions afterward and passing her Oscar around the audience. This seemed strange in context (serious film, serious questions...ooh, Oscar!), but she was very effective as both a speaker as well as director.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
18. You are totally correct......sorry (old mind)
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:09 AM
Jan 2022

Thank you and also thank you for the other information........

uponit7771

(93,305 posts)
10. By flooding info mediums with their narrative *FIRST*. The "its the M$M" is scapegoating, we need to
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jan 2022

... take responsibility for dem lack of message mechanics and push dem pols in to 2020 political messaging.

Continuing to blame it ALL on M$M is counterproductive.

11 Bravo

(24,217 posts)
3. 5G didn't exactly sneak up on us.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jan 2022

Why did the FAA wait until now to freak out? My issue is with them, more so than the FCC.

pnwmom

(110,125 posts)
11. The FAA didn't wait. Their concerns were expressed by 2019.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jan 2022
https://transportation.house.gov/news/press-releases/chair-defazio-calls-on-fcc-to-postpone-tomorrows-scheduled-auction-of-a-portion-of-37-42-ghz-radio-frequency-spectrum-citing-new-research-that-amplifies-the-safety-concerns-of-the-aviation-community

This is from a piece on Dec. 7, 2020:


Chair DeFazio first brought safety concerns to the FCC’s attention more than a year ago, noting that both the Federal Aviation Administration and the greater aviation community feared that the intended use of this auctioned spectrum—wireless broadband—would interfere with sensitive aviation safety equipment and jeopardize aviation safety. Since then, the Radio Technical Commission for Aeronautics (RTCA) completed its six-month review and assessment of interference from 5G network emissions with safety-critical radio altimeter performance and found serious risks of harmful interference on all types of civil aircraft, including commercial airlines and general aviation airplanes and helicopters.

IronLionZion

(50,126 posts)
8. TFG's buddies took lots of money to sell those frequency bands
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jan 2022

Europe uses lower slower bands so they didn't have any problem with their rollout on the same day as ours. The US ones are very close to the frequency used by altimeters and other flight control instruments.

They knew that when they chose money over public safety. And they knew this would happen on the next president's watch so not their problem.

Submariner

(13,176 posts)
13. The FCC was under this Ajit Pai punk in 2017
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022

who loved repealing President Obama's net-neutrality bill.

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