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babylonsister

(172,760 posts)
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 12:43 PM Dec 2021

Rand Paul Ridiculed After Accusing Dems of 'Stealing' Elections by Persuading People to Vote for The

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Rand Paul Ridiculed After Accusing Dems of ‘Stealing’ Elections by Persuading People to Vote for Them
IT’S NOT FAIR
Jamie Ross
News Correspondent
Updated Dec. 28, 2021 9:52AM ET /
Published Dec. 28, 2021 6:23AM ET
Shawn Thew/Reuters

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has accused Democrats of “stealing” elections by legally persuading people to vote for them—and people have quickly pointed out to him that’s simply how democracy works. Writing on Twitter, the senator quoted an article from the Washington Examiner about how Democrats carried Wisconsin in 2020 after losing it to ex-President Donald Trump in his 2016 victory. Paul’s tweet read: “How to steal an election: ‘Seeding an area heavy with potential Democratic votes with as many absentee ballots as possible, targeting and convincing potential voters to complete them in a legally valid way, and then harvesting and counting the results.’” CNN’s White House correspondent John Harwood then pointed out: “Convincing potential voters to cast legal ballots is how you win elections in a democracy.” Georgia State Law professor Anthony Michael Kreis replied: “This is what we call—wait for it—voting.”
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Rand Paul Ridiculed After Accusing Dems of 'Stealing' Elections by Persuading People to Vote for The (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2021 OP
Rand Paul really is demented. No wonder he had trouble with his next door neighbor. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2021 #1
I'm sure glad they don't let him play with subatomic particles........ lastlib Dec 2021 #41
Is this real? MiniMe Dec 2021 #2
sure it is, taking advantage of absentee ballot laws is offensive to the GoP. They lose... Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #5
They DO do it. They just don't think WE should be allowed. dchill Dec 2021 #27
He's really grasping at straws now JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #3
Make it so! Bayard Dec 2021 #11
Charles Booker BETTER beat his ass. calimary Dec 2021 #18
Which heaven forbid JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #26
Yes, dagnab it! How DARE Democrats complete ballots in a legally valid way? DFW Dec 2021 #4
Maybe it's because he knows his side mainly wins by cheating. calimary Dec 2021 #20
On top of that, doesn't the voter have to request the absentee ballot? Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #6
I believe that's the case in every state. CrispyQ Dec 2021 #9
Exactly. And I guarantee you Rand Paul knows that part of the process Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #10
We don't request ballots in WA state... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #17
So there are no voting precincts/polling centers open on election day? CrispyQ Dec 2021 #22
Actually, there are some, but almost everything is mail in, yes. Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #24
CO here. CrispyQ Dec 2021 #25
Not in CA wryter2000 Dec 2021 #21
I've never understood why someone would vote for a candidate who disdains government. CrispyQ Dec 2021 #23
I don't think he has anything against government, per se. Just the democratic kind! ShazzieB Dec 2021 #33
what can be expected llashram Dec 2021 #7
Is Rand Paul projecting that he stole his election? KS Toronado Dec 2021 #8
There always is Bayard Dec 2021 #12
And that 30% invariably show up at the polls.... paleotn Dec 2021 #30
They really think helping people vote is cheating. JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #13
This is the first thing that went through my head when I read the tweet... ShazzieB Dec 2021 #35
Sen. Paul doesn't see the point of holding elections gratuitous Dec 2021 #14
I was hoping this was something from The Onion or Borowitz BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #15
He's Faux pas Dec 2021 #16
The right wing loves the word "harvesting" -- that's the word they're trained to use greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #19
Democrats are "harvesting" "freedoms." dchill Dec 2021 #28
Oddly enough, they use "harvesting" with a negative connotation when describing Dems collecting LaMouffette Dec 2021 #31
They also say "harvesting" to mean Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #42
Yup. Totally human-centric point of view that sees the earth and everything in it as belonging LaMouffette Dec 2021 #43
Rand (aka tribble head) and his ilk really are that dumb. paleotn Dec 2021 #29
We need to steal more elections this way. LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #32
Want to know something even crazier? ShazzieB Dec 2021 #34
They hate Democracy. It's out in the open and blatant. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2021 #36
Ayn Paul's neighbor was railroaded. Hassler Dec 2021 #37
Georgia doesn't give a damn who are how people vote anyway SouthernDem4ever Dec 2021 #38
This was actually The Onion, yes?? PLEEEEASE tell me this was The Onon! niyad Dec 2021 #39
They don't want us to vote at all. Lunabell Dec 2021 #40
That totally reads like an Onion headline Dukkha Dec 2021 #44
Fascists hate free elections DBoon Dec 2021 #45

lastlib

(28,278 posts)
41. I'm sure glad they don't let him play with subatomic particles........
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 12:57 AM
Dec 2021

Geez, what a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.

Few things in this world are worse than malevolent stupidity.

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
5. sure it is, taking advantage of absentee ballot laws is offensive to the GoP. They lose...
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 12:57 PM
Dec 2021

which is also offensive to the GOP. Mostly they didn't think to do it themselves.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
27. They DO do it. They just don't think WE should be allowed.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:11 PM
Dec 2021

"Legal, valid ballots" are white/Republican. That's what they mean when they say that.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
3. He's really grasping at straws now
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 12:55 PM
Dec 2021

Charles Booker can beat his ass. I hope to hell he does. This little ass wipe has it coming. Booker just needs to stick to the from The Hood to the Holler script. IE - he knows poverty and pain - whereas scumbag is against the people.

calimary

(90,039 posts)
18. Charles Booker BETTER beat his ass.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:36 PM
Dec 2021

He needs to be relieved of duty. And how is that accomplished? Legally? By VOTING!

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
26. Which heaven forbid
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:09 PM
Dec 2021

Booker convinces people who have been left behind of ALL races - to vote for him.

Heaven forbid Calimary! Rand Paul's argument if he loses is - well - it should be illegal for a Democratic Party member to run so I'm contesting this election.

DFW

(60,189 posts)
4. Yes, dagnab it! How DARE Democrats complete ballots in a legally valid way?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 12:56 PM
Dec 2021

I feel ashamed already.

(Okay, maybe not)

calimary

(90,039 posts)
20. Maybe it's because he knows his side mainly wins by cheating.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:41 PM
Dec 2021

By contrast, WE do it the way it’s supposed to be done. By the rules, legally.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. On top of that, doesn't the voter have to request the absentee ballot?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 01:12 PM
Dec 2021

IOW, you could 'seed' an area with *request forms for absentee ballots*, but not actual absentee ballots.

So, the voter also has an addt'l step of mailing in the request.

Or is WI different from most states in this regard?

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
9. I believe that's the case in every state.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 01:40 PM
Dec 2021

You have to request a mail-in/absentee ballot. My state has vote-by-mail for every election, but you still have to request a mail-in ballot. A lot of CTs got started & were spread by people who don't understand & didn't bother to research the electoral process.

I had an exchange with a man who claimed that democrats were going from precinct to precinct & voting multiple times. I explained that if you show up to vote at any precinct other than your own, you're not in the poll book. You would then be directed to either go to your own precinct or you would be given a provisional ballot, which would be reconciled, & if you really had voted twice, you would probably be investigated. Turns out, he didn't know what a poll book or a provisional ballot were.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. Exactly. And I guarantee you Rand Paul knows that part of the process
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 01:46 PM
Dec 2021

So, he's totally just flagrantly lying within the first few friggin words out of his mouth.

These f***ing RePuQ's are utterly shameless, man. It's incredible.

Wounded Bear

(64,328 posts)
17. We don't request ballots in WA state...
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:34 PM
Dec 2021

they are mailed out to all registered voters a coupule of weeks before the election.

And yes, most of the people protesting about the process don't know what they're talking about, or just lying.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
22. So there are no voting precincts/polling centers open on election day?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:01 PM
Dec 2021

All ballots are mailed in? I would think eventually CO would go that route, too.

Wounded Bear

(64,328 posts)
24. Actually, there are some, but almost everything is mail in, yes.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:05 PM
Dec 2021

I think there is 4-5 in King County, whereas there are several drop boxes in every city and town AFAAIK. I usually use a drop box, and they have a website where you can track your ballot to when it is opened and counted.

Oregon is pretty similar, I think. I know CO was contemplating it. Don't really know the status of other states.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
25. CO here.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:08 PM
Dec 2021

We have polling centers for in-person voting. They are open a few weeks before Election Day. We have lots & drop-off boxes for mail-in voters. My county has texting ballot tracking. Very nice feature! Not sure if it's statewide. What's funny is repubs like these features, too.

I wrote to Manchin that it wasn't democratic for it to be easier to vote in CO than it is in WV. Not that he ever saw it or cared if he did.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
21. Not in CA
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:54 PM
Dec 2021

In 2020, every voter got an absentee ballot and an envelope that didn't require postage. We're going to be doing that from now on. This is the government you get when you eliminate the Republican party from power. We also have a budget surplus.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
23. I've never understood why someone would vote for a candidate who disdains government.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:05 PM
Dec 2021

That's like hiring an employee who hates your company. Would anyone do that? No.

We still have polling centers open on Election Day. Not in every precinct like we used to, but you can vote in person if you want.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
8. Is Rand Paul projecting that he stole his election?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 01:40 PM
Dec 2021

Lots of questions in Kentucky how he and Moscow Mitch won there.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
30. And that 30% invariably show up at the polls....
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

Part of the 70% may not like Paul or McConnell specifically, but guns, Jebus and other assorted cultural factors steer them to the reich. Much of the rest of the 70% don't show up at the polls at all. KY ranks among the worst states in voter turnout.

JohnnyRingo

(20,872 posts)
13. They really think helping people vote is cheating.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 01:59 PM
Dec 2021

Remember the Souls to The Polls and how they ended that along with interactions with people in line to vote? Or how many states shortened early voting and closed strategic precincts? Must show a govt issued picture ID and vote every year to stay on the books.

They claimed it was all the end fraud.
Soon they'll ban people who car pool.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Sen. Paul doesn't see the point of holding elections
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:03 PM
Dec 2021

Someone (and guess who Sen. Paul thinks is "someone" - uh huh) should just declare the winners of each race, and that person is then installed in office. None of that messy so-called voting and counting of ballots, just a diktat issued at one minute past poll closing time, and our government is deemed installed.

What? Something wrong with that proposal?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
19. The right wing loves the word "harvesting" -- that's the word they're trained to use
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

when discussing any kind of absentee or non-on-site ballots: harvesting. For the right wing mind, this word, in the context of votes, is sinister. Of course, it just means following up to make sure people cast their votes, but harvesting, harvesting, harvesting!

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
31. Oddly enough, they use "harvesting" with a negative connotation when describing Dems collecting
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 03:40 PM
Dec 2021

absentee ballots.

But they use the word as a pleasant euphemism for "killing" when it comes to deer hunting. They don't kill the deer. They "harvest" it. Interesting how they use the word to degrade and cast suspicion on one action (collecting ballots), then turn around and use it to sanitize and excuse another action (killing deer).

Full disclosure, my husband hunts deer for food and I eat the deer he kills (guess that makes me a scavenger). But we never says he "harvested" the deer. He killed it, and we ate it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
42. They also say "harvesting" to mean
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:59 AM
Dec 2021

They will talk about "harvesting natural resources" when they mean open pit coal mining destroying the land, clear cutting huge forests, and drilling for oil in marine habitats.



LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
43. Yup. Totally human-centric point of view that sees the earth and everything in it as belonging
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 09:47 AM
Dec 2021

to humans to exploit however they like.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
34. Want to know something even crazier?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 04:29 PM
Dec 2021

That tweet got a lot of comments setting Paul straight, but those are interspersed with comments from idiots who don't see anything wrong with what he said! :facepalm

Click the "read replies" link at the bottom of the tweet to see what I mean:


 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
40. They don't want us to vote at all.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 12:56 AM
Dec 2021

They only want wealthy land owners to be able to vote.

DBoon

(24,989 posts)
45. Fascists hate free elections
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 12:13 PM
Dec 2021

The only elections they like are ones where there is one candidate on the ballot, and where if you abstain you get beaten by goons.

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