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Cawthorn's wife a Russian asset? (Original Post) FelineOverlord Dec 2021 OP
Big Deal SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #1
It's a really big deal. Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #6
Maybe To Us It Is SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #8
Doesn't anybody ever vet these people for office? Firestorm49 Dec 2021 #38
That's what the voters are supposed to do. gldstwmn Dec 2021 #59
The point being made is that Trump is a Russian asset and Magats don't care. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #64
Ron Johnson spent the 4th of July in Russia. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #34
With Thune. BHDem53 Dec 2021 #45
And Jill Stein LakeArenal Dec 2021 #56
Social media investigation prosecution and judgment is bit slower in real life than virtual. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #48
"The Garland motto: forgive and forget" 😹🤯 Meowmee Dec 2021 #76
You have to admire the Rooskis for their "talent" spotting.... OnDoutside Dec 2021 #2
I imagine there is a US Consulate in St Petersburg... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #3
Is there a casino in St. Petersburg? yardwork Dec 2021 #18
None. They were outlawed in 2009. Celerity Dec 2021 #72
Sgt. Major Cherokee100 Dec 2021 #43
But wouldn't the Russians be smart enough to hook up their Red Sparrow Ocelot II Dec 2021 #4
You can cast a wide net and cull out the losers. But he is a US Congressman, how big do you want? dem4decades Dec 2021 #7
worst that could happen is they pick up another useful idiot. mopinko Dec 2021 #11
He's definitely an idiot; how useful he might be is another question.... Ocelot II Dec 2021 #12
well, did they help him get his seat? mopinko Dec 2021 #16
Cawthorn got his seat courtesy of the NC GOP and the RW scum that own it. The same filthy rich who Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #51
Maybe that's why she's divorcing him. Totally useless and no information. panader0 Dec 2021 #46
Melania took trump. ....🤷🏼‍♀️ LakeArenal Dec 2021 #35
The Russians infiltrated the US Congress. That is huge. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #65
I agree rockfordfile Dec 2021 #74
Yeah, I think I'm going to need more information on this one. MineralMan Dec 2021 #5
It's Good Enough For Agit-Prop Work, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #10
Yes, Indeed, Sir. Cawthorn Is an ASS, MineralMan Dec 2021 #13
True Or Not, Sir, Is Of Little Importance Nowadays The Magistrate Dec 2021 #19
Regrettably, you are correct, sir. MineralMan Dec 2021 #20
The only people who will believe it are those who already don't like Cawthorn onenote Dec 2021 #22
The story is confusing. She herself was not an Army captain and has never visited Russia mn9driver Dec 2021 #24
Doesn't Marjorie Taylor Green work for CrossFit? yardwork Dec 2021 #77
Sounds like "she" wasn't the Cap. The Captain is the guy who introduced them, in FL. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #73
... "and her mother is a sexagenarian" lapucelle Dec 2021 #23
Sounds like rumor and hearsay.... albacore Dec 2021 #9
He said it himself. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #32
yeah this doesn't look like much........ Takket Dec 2021 #14
Why would an army captain marry this nincampoop? viva la Dec 2021 #17
he likes lap dances !!!! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #25
This happens once an "asset" has outlived its usefulness. It happened to a cousin of my wife DFW Dec 2021 #50
That's such a cold war story... amazing viva la Dec 2021 #61
Definitely a cold war story, and certainly not unique DFW Dec 2021 #62
Mission accomplished or she was found out. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #66
Not saying I buy the narrative, but, to be clear blogslug Dec 2021 #21
Cawthorn's wife a Russian asset? FelineOverlord Dec 2021 #15
Wait a minute. Is this the modern-day equivalent of Russian mail-order bride? bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #26
Via the internet Historic NY Dec 2021 #30
Someone needs to find a picture of Ms. Cawthorn. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #27
Here's a couple from the Daily Mail. She's quite the athletic girl. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #49
The DOJ is on this... berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #28
The DOJ is doing their job and doing it properly. And they're getting 10X more done than under Barr. George II Dec 2021 #52
Many would disagree with you. berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #53
Most would not. Even Schiff's comments have proven to not be as critical as some make it... George II Dec 2021 #57
I'm still waiting for the day when you realize berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #58
Please stop. You have zero real information, yet you are bold MineralMan Dec 2021 #68
How did he and his friends talk their way into Russian w/o visas... Historic NY Dec 2021 #29
He would have needed a visa to enter Russia Sienna86 Dec 2021 #36
Well there is video of them being there even at a McDonalds... Historic NY Dec 2021 #54
If Chump had won the election, that marriage would have lasted FakeNoose Dec 2021 #31
Bookmarking for later. revmclaren Dec 2021 #33
Why was this little snot-nose in Russia? Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #37
Did he "win" any money while he was at the "casino" in St. Petersburg? TheRealNorth Dec 2021 #79
It's the internet, so it must be true! Mark Zuckerberg funded the Cross Fit Competition, so I heard cayugafalls Dec 2021 #39
ok, so, how many refuKKKchickens in the word "dumbfuck"? (trick question ha - all of 'em!) bringthePaine Dec 2021 #40
So he got lured into a marriage and now an expensive quickie divorce bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #41
Why are sooooo many Republicans mixed up with Russian connections? UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #42
Possibility #1: Russia-connected right wing Batista Cubans in Miami, and stupidity. ancianita Dec 2021 #44
Because they are receiving money from Putin and Russian oligarchs. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #67
Republican Party is now the Republican Russian Party. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #47
Cawthorn has once again been caught in a blatant lie - make that two: George II Dec 2021 #55
Cawthorn's wife a Russian asset? FelineOverlord Dec 2021 #60
I expect to hear that Cawthorn ... Xoan Dec 2021 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #69
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #70
"...and was entrapped by a russian honeypot" EX500rider Dec 2021 #82
Russian republican party. Un-American pos rockfordfile Dec 2021 #71
Army Captain? rockfordfile Dec 2021 #75
Maddy Cawthorn and this whole back story is BS. There are only 6 zones where gambling / casinos are Celerity Dec 2021 #78
Did he "win" a lot of money? TheRealNorth Dec 2021 #80
The Evil Empire Russians totally own the Republicans Achilleaze Dec 2021 #81
 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
1. Big Deal
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:05 PM
Dec 2021

TFG was as well, and other than impeachment, nothing came of it.

I doubt anything will come of this either. The Garland motto: forgive and forget.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
8. Maybe To Us It Is
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:10 PM
Dec 2021

To the people that matter, it’s merely some talking points.

Nothing will come of it, and he will continue as a member of Congress, and probably win re-election.

Firestorm49

(4,453 posts)
38. Doesn't anybody ever vet these people for office?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:33 PM
Dec 2021

If that’s not the norm, then perhaps it should be.

Irish_Dem

(75,786 posts)
64. The point being made is that Trump is a Russian asset and Magats don't care.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 04:05 PM
Dec 2021

But yes of course, it is a very big deal and quite serious to learn that Putin has infiltrated all branches of US government.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
48. Social media investigation prosecution and judgment is bit slower in real life than virtual.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

So someone told me, but not on social media.
I trust the man Biden trusts.

Wounded Bear

(63,130 posts)
3. I imagine there is a US Consulate in St Petersburg...
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

so a US officer being assigned or visiting there is not totally out of the realm of possibility, but anything that includes Russia is certainly suspect.

Cherokee100

(408 posts)
43. Sgt. Major
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:47 PM
Dec 2021

I had a Sargent Major in the Marine Corps. who worked with Lee Harvey Oswald in Japan. They were working (radar survailence ) U2s flights, over Russia/Soviet Union. Somehow Oswald ended up Russia. The point being, the Russians r very good, at getting inside any government they want. He also said Oswald was the quiet type and very smart. Didn't mingle with the rest of the troops much. Kinda makes me wonder. Semper Fidelis!!

Ocelot II

(127,562 posts)
4. But wouldn't the Russians be smart enough to hook up their Red Sparrow
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

with somebody less dumb and useless than Madison Cawthorne?

dem4decades

(13,196 posts)
7. You can cast a wide net and cull out the losers. But he is a US Congressman, how big do you want?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:08 PM
Dec 2021

mopinko

(73,030 posts)
16. well, did they help him get his seat?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:27 PM
Dec 2021

that's the thing about idiots. they're there for you to use.

Ford_Prefect

(8,453 posts)
51. Cawthorn got his seat courtesy of the NC GOP and the RW scum that own it. The same filthy rich who
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:21 PM
Dec 2021

funded the GOP takeover of the NC legislature. They are out of the same church as the rest of the RW Christian Empire and believe in the golden rule above all others: "Them as have the gold make the rules".

That Cawthorn would be part of a Russian operation, as a willing stooge or RW tool is no surprise. He's always waved the neo-fascist flag and that is one of the more popular pathways used by Russian Intel to win "friends" for Vladimir and the new Russian empire.

They would not need to win his seat in NC. His district is very RW already. They more likely use his access to congressional information along with his votes on committee or on the floor. They very clearly are using him as an outlet for propaganda and an advocate in Congress. No doubt he's been receiving whatever they are passing out in the way of campaign funds or other benefits.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
46. Maybe that's why she's divorcing him. Totally useless and no information.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:09 PM
Dec 2021

The thirty women who accused him of sexual crimes were known before the marriage.
Why would she marry the guy after learning of his past?

Irish_Dem

(75,786 posts)
65. The Russians infiltrated the US Congress. That is huge.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 04:15 PM
Dec 2021

And the dumber the mark the better.
MC is too stupid to know he is being used.
He just prattles Russian talking points on cue.

MineralMan

(149,859 posts)
5. Yeah, I think I'm going to need more information on this one.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:07 PM
Dec 2021

Seems a little sketchy and thin to me.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
10. It's Good Enough For Agit-Prop Work, Sir
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:15 PM
Dec 2021



"My opponent is a known thespian who matriculated while at college!"



MineralMan

(149,859 posts)
13. Yes, Indeed, Sir. Cawthorn Is an ASS,
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:23 PM
Dec 2021

but there is no real information regarding his meeting with his wife-to-be-and-soon-not-to-be in any of that. Certainly none that indicates that she was a Russian operative. Instead, she was apparently a US Army Captain, who might well have been there under no pretenses at all.

Someone is jumping to conclusions, I'd guess.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
19. True Or Not, Sir, Is Of Little Importance Nowadays
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:33 PM
Dec 2021

What is said often enough is believed by multitudes.

We are better than they are because our ends are better, not because there are effective tactics we refuse to dirty our hands with.


"If there are such things as angels, I hope they are organized on the lines of the Mafia."



MineralMan

(149,859 posts)
20. Regrettably, you are correct, sir.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:39 PM
Dec 2021

I deplore this kind of thing. If there is some evidence of it, the poster should show it forth. Apparently, there is only some speculation, which I guess passes for fact these days.

Ugh!

onenote

(45,703 posts)
22. The only people who will believe it are those who already don't like Cawthorn
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:45 PM
Dec 2021

So you can rest assured it will amount to nothing.

mn9driver

(4,785 posts)
24. The story is confusing. She herself was not an Army captain and has never visited Russia
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

At least, not that we know. The Army Captain met Cawthorn in Russia and subsequently hooked him up with his then-prospective wife in a contrived meeting in Miami.

Cawthorn’s now ex-wife is a fitness instructor, personal trainer and entrepreneur from Florida. She works primarily for the CrossFit Company, but claims to be studying to be a anesthesiologist assistant.

There is probably nothing there, but I’d like to know a little more about this army Captain who sidelines as a right wing Yenta….

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
32. He said it himself.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:22 PM
Dec 2021

He met her through a guy he met at a St. Petersburg gambling establishment. Twenty year old American in a Russian casino? The guy tricked him into meeting him at a phony CrossFit competition.

I’m not saying it’s true, but I do think his wife’s background deserves attention. She was a guest at the White House, and he’s a US Congress member.

Takket

(23,271 posts)
14. yeah this doesn't look like much........
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:25 PM
Dec 2021

"Why would a U.S. Army officer be in a Russian casino?"

She was on vacation? She was on a layover? She was visiting relatives?

Not everything is the plot of a James Bond movie. In fact almost nothing is. Unless they want to produce some proof she has Russian handlers, it is a nothing burger.

And frankly we don't NEED her to be a Russian asset to KNOW that Cawthorn is a national security threat and a scumbag. He accomplished those things all on his own.

viva la

(4,327 posts)
17. Why would an army captain marry this nincampoop?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:29 PM
Dec 2021

I mean, at least espionage is a reason.

But then, why divorce a few months later?

DFW

(59,054 posts)
50. This happens once an "asset" has outlived its usefulness. It happened to a cousin of my wife
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:16 PM
Dec 2021

He used visit the former East Germany on occasion. On one visit, he met ,and fell in love with an East German woman. They applied for an exit visa for her, which was granted with remarkably (he never suspected a thing) little bureaucracy and no harassment. As soon as she was in the west, they got married. The day after the marriage, she left him. She went to work in the tech sector. Right after the Berlin Wall fell, and the socialist regime announced its dissolution and reunification with the West was announced, she committed suicide.

My wife's cousin was only useful as long as he was giving her a legitimate excuse to show up in the west. Once she was married and had a legal residence (citizenship was granted automatically to all East Germans arriving in the West), he was of no further use to the Stasi, and she was free to do what she had been sent to do, which was acquire high tech knowledge for her Stasi/KGB masters. Whether her suicide was genuine, or "assisted" was never investigated, or if so, not publicly.

viva la

(4,327 posts)
61. That's such a cold war story... amazing
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 03:23 PM
Dec 2021

It reminds me of how Ivana Trump "defected"
.... married an Austrian and dumped as soon as she got past the iron curtain.

DFW

(59,054 posts)
62. Definitely a cold war story, and certainly not unique
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 03:27 PM
Dec 2021

This just happened to involve someone we knew. There were surely hundreds if not thousands like it.

Irish_Dem

(75,786 posts)
66. Mission accomplished or she was found out.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 04:18 PM
Dec 2021

Time to move onto another mission or safety.

blogslug

(39,021 posts)
21. Not saying I buy the narrative, but, to be clear
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:43 PM
Dec 2021

The wife is/was not the army officer. The army officer set Cawthorn up with the her, according to that bit of video.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
27. Someone needs to find a picture of Ms. Cawthorn.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:18 PM
Dec 2021

I’ve seen one. She was at the White House, in the final weeks of trumps presidency, at a fancy dinner, sitting next to her husband, with her cleavage hanging all over the table.

I don’t know how to find, or post, a picture.

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. The DOJ is doing their job and doing it properly. And they're getting 10X more done than under Barr.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:32 PM
Dec 2021


 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
53. Many would disagree with you.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:35 PM
Dec 2021

Laurence Tribe for one. Adam Schiff, another. And at least a few dozen former federal prosecutors.

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. Most would not. Even Schiff's comments have proven to not be as critical as some make it...
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:42 PM
Dec 2021

Lawrence Tribe? Does Merrick Garland call him to give him a status update? Tribe is just speculating. He's never investigated or prosecuted a single case for the Department of Justice.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
58. I'm still waiting for the day when you realize
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:54 PM
Dec 2021

None of the people who organized this are going to spend a day in prison or suffer any consequences for doing so.

That day will come and then how will your being an apologist seem then?

MineralMan

(149,859 posts)
68. Please stop. You have zero real information, yet you are bold
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 04:32 PM
Dec 2021

to tell others what WILL happen. I'm not sure why you are doing this, but it is borderline offensive.

Historic NY

(39,327 posts)
29. How did he and his friends talk their way into Russian w/o visas...
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:20 PM
Dec 2021

it would have to involve an arrangement.....pay off.

Historic NY

(39,327 posts)
54. Well there is video of them being there even at a McDonalds...
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

one of his friends didn't scrub it.


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All his antics in Mother russia...

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
79. Did he "win" any money while he was at the "casino" in St. Petersburg?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 06:07 PM
Dec 2021

Just saying that that would be a convenient way to launder money or pass a bribe.

cayugafalls

(5,933 posts)
39. It's the internet, so it must be true! Mark Zuckerberg funded the Cross Fit Competition, so I heard
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:34 PM
Dec 2021

ancianita

(42,125 posts)
44. Possibility #1: Russia-connected right wing Batista Cubans in Miami, and stupidity.
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 01:57 PM
Dec 2021

Maybe that's two. Anyway, while Cuba stopped getting oil from Russia decades ago, Russians in Cuba did not return home to Russia. They left for Miami with Batista Cubans, and they still have an embassy in Cuba, which is the ugliest building on planet Earth.

Possibility #2: Trump hooked up with Russia through business dealings in Miami, so now Russians have felt even more at home in finding American assets ever since. And setting up anchor baby networks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
55. Cawthorn has once again been caught in a blatant lie - make that two:
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 02:38 PM
Dec 2021

1. There is no boat service between Sweden and St. Petersburg. Even if there was, it would be a 1-1/2 day trip!
2. There are no casinos in St. Petersburg - NOT ONE!

He's acting like he hopped on the Staten Island Ferry to Manhattan!

Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,781 posts)
70. Who is surprised by this?
Mon Dec 27, 2021, 08:21 PM
Dec 2021

Cawthorn appears to be a russian pawn and was entrapped by a russian honeypot

EX500rider

(11,998 posts)
82. "...and was entrapped by a russian honeypot"
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 06:41 PM
Dec 2021

Except she appears to be American?

Cawthron's wife Cristina Bayardelle is an American fitness model, athlete, fitness instructor, personal trainer and entrepreneur from Florida.
She mainly works for the CrossFit fitness company.
Cristina has competed in six different CrossFit tournaments over the last five years, the most recent in 2020.
She is studying to be an anesthesiologist, according to an Instagram post by Madison.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/1739608/madison-cawthorn-wife-cristina/

 

rockfordfile

(8,742 posts)
75. Army Captain?
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 12:59 AM
Dec 2021

There's a Army Captain in prison for 15 years who spied for Russia. Peter Dzibinski Debbins 46 pleaded guilty last year to espionage-related charge of conspiracy to gather or deliver defense information to aid a foreign government.

In court filings, Debbins said he was motivated by a combination of familial loyalty, financial opportunity and personal grievance against the U.S. Army. His mother came from the Soviet Union and, according to court documents, he described himself as a “son of Russia” who thought the United States needed to be “cut down to size.”

Celerity

(52,311 posts)
78. Maddy Cawthorn and this whole back story is BS. There are only 6 zones where gambling / casinos are
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM
Dec 2021
allowed. None of them are in St. Petersburg.
Why is it that the Daily Caller RW site, not catch that? Did they want this backstory to get traction?





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