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Polybius

(21,016 posts)
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:31 AM Dec 2021

Domino's employee kills robber, residents react

BOLIVAR, Tenn. – A Bolivar Domino’s was closed Thursday, hours after police say an armed robber was shot and killed by a store employee.

Bolivar Police said two men tried to hold up the restaurant on South Porter Street just before midnight.

They said one of the robbers came through the back door of the business and pointed a gun at the employees and one of the employees pulled out his own gun and opened fire.

28-year-old Jahquille Kodarius Dubose was pronounced dead on the scene. The other robber was seen running from the scene.

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What are your thoughts on this? I know it's a week old, but I hadn't heard about it until last night. The deceased's Facebook is here. I have mixed feeling on this, as I wasn't there.

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Domino's employee kills robber, residents react (Original Post) Polybius Dec 2021 OP
No sympathy for the robber. nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #1
Jahquille fucked around and found out what happens when you pull a gun for a crime in gunhumper USA Celerity Dec 2021 #2
I think of it this way ... Straw Man Dec 2021 #3
" Will they spare me if I comply?" Google raccoon Dec 2021 #27
I'm fine with it, and glad the employee was able to defend themself. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #4
When I Delivered Pizzas A Driver Was Robbed And Started Carrying A 9 DanieRains Dec 2021 #5
related story MissMillie Dec 2021 #24
If the gun wasn't there Busterscruggs Dec 2021 #6
Which gun? n/m BradAllison Dec 2021 #10
All guns are marketed Busterscruggs Dec 2021 #11
As long as we're counting the one that was brandished first n/m BradAllison Dec 2021 #12
A killing tool Busterscruggs Dec 2021 #15
"I doubt the robber had any intent to become a murderer too." Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #19
Did you see his Facebook? Polybius Dec 2021 #29
I'll get back to you when I'm willing to risk my life based on what you doubt. 11 Bravo Dec 2021 #33
Pointing a gun at someone is a death threat Withywindle Dec 2021 #34
Impossible to know that Amishman Dec 2021 #21
Tasers are notoriously unreliable, though. Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #25
It wasn't a legal gun Polybius Dec 2021 #30
It wasn't a legal gun Polybius Dec 2021 #31
If anyone sympathizes with the robber on this one... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #7
My sympathy goes to the shooter. multigraincracker Dec 2021 #8
That's my thoughts on it Walleye Dec 2021 #9
Looks like a textbook justified self defense situation madville Dec 2021 #13
The robber ended up getting what he threatened others with Raine Dec 2021 #14
Good for the employee Thtwudbeme Dec 2021 #16
Self defense - no charges for employee - three accomplices charged Klaralven Dec 2021 #17
TN has a felony murder law sir pball Dec 2021 #18
This is North Shore Chicago Dec 2021 #20
I have no sympathy whatsoever for the robber, and some sympathy for his family. Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #22
I hope the employee will be okay MissMillie Dec 2021 #23
These late night types of robberies can quickly go from cash to killing. JanMichael Dec 2021 #26
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. N/T Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #28
I'm not big fan of gun toting (since it often doesn't end well), but when it works, it works Silent3 Dec 2021 #32
I hope they catch the other robber and try him for murder. marie999 Dec 2021 #35

Celerity

(52,669 posts)
2. Jahquille fucked around and found out what happens when you pull a gun for a crime in gunhumper USA
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:02 AM
Dec 2021

Zero fucks to give.

Straw Man

(6,909 posts)
3. I think of it this way ...
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:22 AM
Dec 2021

If somebody points a gun at me in a robbery, I have to believe that they would use it. Otherwise I would just tell them "Fuck off -- I'm keeping my money."

It stands to reason, then, that it probably isn't a good idea to wait around to see what their criteria for using it might be. Will they spare me if I comply? Maybe, but maybe not. So if I'm armed and have a chance to shoot back, it makes sense to take that chance.

Never entrust your future to the good will of the person who is robbing you at gunpoint.

raccoon

(32,092 posts)
27. " Will they spare me if I comply?" Google
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:41 AM
Dec 2021

“Brown’s Chicken Massacre” If you’re not familiar with it.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
5. When I Delivered Pizzas A Driver Was Robbed And Started Carrying A 9
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 05:38 AM
Dec 2021

After that.

I know he would use it too.

MissMillie

(39,474 posts)
24. related story
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:15 AM
Dec 2021

I worked part-time for a pizza restaurant. The owner told me that long before I started working there, they got a call for delivery and the caller said he only had a $100 bill, so the driver would need to bring change.

Well, the caller didn't live at the address given for delivery, but he was there and robbed the driver. Took the pizza and the cash.

After that, any customer who suggested the driver carry that kind of "change" was told that drivers don't carry that kind of cash. Customer needed to use a credit/debit card number instead, or had to come pick up his/her order.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
11. All guns are marketed
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:53 AM
Dec 2021

As a reason for self defense, yet here we are again with another story of gun related violence. The robber wouldn't have felt empowered to rob a story if he didn't have it and a store clerk wouldn't have to live with the tortured guilt of having killed another young black man. None of this would have happened without these senseless tools of death.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
15. A killing tool
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 08:28 AM
Dec 2021

Is a killing tool, no matter who carries it. I doubt the robber had any intent to become a murderer too. Just let him take the stuff, insurance covers it, get on with your day

Jedi Guy

(3,389 posts)
19. "I doubt the robber had any intent to become a murderer too."
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:50 AM
Dec 2021

You can't know that, and neither could the employees inside the store. There have been robberies in the past where employees were told they wouldn't be harmed if they cooperated, only for the robber to execute them so as to avoid leaving witnesses. As Straw Man pointed out, it's generally unwise to entrust your future to the goodwill of someone robbing you at gunpoint.

Polybius

(21,016 posts)
29. Did you see his Facebook?
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:21 PM
Dec 2021

He was the definition of a thug. All of his friends that expressed their condolences are hardcore too. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's killed many times before.

11 Bravo

(24,218 posts)
33. I'll get back to you when I'm willing to risk my life based on what you doubt.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 06:41 PM
Dec 2021

Friendly hint: Don't hold your breath.

Withywindle

(9,989 posts)
34. Pointing a gun at someone is a death threat
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 06:58 PM
Dec 2021

I don't think anyone should wait around to determine if he "meant it" or not. Armed robbers do kill sometimes, and in that situation, the victim can't read minds and shouldn't have to try.

If someone is pointing a gun at you, you should assume that they are willing to kill you and act accordingly.

Amishman

(5,901 posts)
21. Impossible to know that
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:55 AM
Dec 2021

unarmed victims can suffer harm or die in robberies, even when they cooperate.

Remove both guns and there still could have been harm or death, as robbery victims do get attacked and beaten by 'unarmed' robbers.

In an armed and violent society, being prepared to defend one's self is prudent when working in a high risk occupation or area.

I will add that mace or a taser is a better choice for many to defend themselves. Though I would not want to face a gunman with those options (or at all), so I do understand the mentality of being prepared to meet this scenario on equal terms.

Jedi Guy

(3,389 posts)
25. Tasers are notoriously unreliable, though.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:20 AM
Dec 2021

Both probes have to make contact with skin for it to work, and this is the time of year when people are wearing thick coats/jackets/sweaters. The odds of a probe hitting skin through thick clothing aren't great, and in some instances the Taser fails to work even when the probes make contact. When I worked for a police department, an officer I was friends with tried to tase a guy who wasn't wearing a shirt. Both probes hit, but nothing happened.

That being the case, if forced to choose between a Taser and mace/bear spray/OC, I'd go with the latter.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
7. If anyone sympathizes with the robber on this one...
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:08 AM
Dec 2021

…then they might as well say no self defense with a gun is acceptable in your mind. There was a poster here many many years ago, Iverglas, who hated self defense with a gun so much, she was against a person in a wheelchair using a gun to defend themselves from an attack (a news story of exactly that).

So if you (not the op) don’t find this shooting justifiable, then admit you don’t find any self defense justifiable if the victim used a gun.

madville

(7,829 posts)
13. Looks like a textbook justified self defense situation
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 08:12 AM
Dec 2021

Do those storefronts even have much cash on hand these days? I would guess the bulk of their transactions are with online or with cards/smart phones.

That will be one benefit when stores go cashless, makes robberies less likely except places where the merchandise itself is high value. Doubt anyone would be holding up a Dominos with a gun just to get a few pizzas.

Raine

(30,975 posts)
14. The robber ended up getting what he threatened others with
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 08:15 AM
Dec 2021

a violent death, good for the employee. 👍

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
17. Self defense - no charges for employee - three accomplices charged
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 08:58 AM
Dec 2021
So far, the Domino’s employee has not been charged with anything.


Upon arrival, officers found a 28-year-old black male, identified as Jahquille Kodarius Dubose deceased from an apparent gunshot wound. Mr. Dubose allegedly entered the back door armed with a weapon and pointed it at employees with the intent to rob the business. One of the employees, also armed, pulled his weapon and shot the suspect who passed away at the scene. One additional masked suspect accompanied Mr. Dubose, but fled the scene on foot.

Investigation by the Bolivar Police Department resulted in warrants being issued for Paricas Antwone Brown, 32, of Bolivar, Seqouyia Shante Fentress, 22, of Bolivar, and Edreckus Darnell Sain, 26, of Bolivar. According to the narrative, Brown entered Domino’s with Dubose, while Fentress and Sain drove the pair to Domino’s in a borrowed car.

All three are to be charged with Attempted Aggravated Robbery.


https://www.bulletintimesnews.com/latest-news/break-stopped-bullet

sir pball

(5,165 posts)
18. TN has a felony murder law
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:49 AM
Dec 2021

These fuckin' punks are likely gonna be in a whole different galaxy of shit than mere aggravated robbery charges.

Jedi Guy

(3,389 posts)
22. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the robber, and some sympathy for his family.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:56 AM
Dec 2021

It's a terrible thing to lose a loved one regardless of how it happened, particularly this close to the holidays. Hopefully, however, they don't go on a crusade against the employee for engaging in self-defense in response to the threat Mr. Dubose presented.

That said, Mr. Dubose's death is the result of his own actions and choices. We don't and can't know whether he would have injured or killed someone in the course of the robbery, so I have no problem with the store employee defending him/herself and fellow employees. Had Mr. Dubose chosen to stay home with his family, he'd still be drawing breath. As Celerity said, he fucked around and found out.

MissMillie

(39,474 posts)
23. I hope the employee will be okay
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:08 AM
Dec 2021

Shooting someone can be pretty traumatic--even when it's justified.

I don't think there should be any legal consequences for the employee.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
26. These late night types of robberies can quickly go from cash to killing.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:38 AM
Dec 2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/march99/cooper18.htm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/04/07/three-employees-of-ne-tavern-slain-during-apparent-robbery/3abd002f-4812-469f-bb40-0d45edf67a15/

Having worked in places like this in the past I can sympathize with the employee. As soon as they enter with guns to rob absolute fear would have hit. One misunderstanding or flinch and it is over. He (or she) may get in some trouble over the store policy or legality/origination of the gun but I'd rather be alive than a good employee.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
32. I'm not big fan of gun toting (since it often doesn't end well), but when it works, it works
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:53 PM
Dec 2021

As far as I'm concerned, once someone pulls a gun on you in a threatening way, and is not doing so to uphold the law but to break it, they've lost their right to expect to survive such the encounter.

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