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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 06:49 AM Dec 2021

"you people always coming in with fake check" and &%$ lying Sgt justin Pletcher

video has surfaced from a U.S. Bank in Minnesota, showing the branch wrongfully detaining Joe Morrow, a Black man, who entered the local bank to cash his paycheck after working a 12-hour shift as an "order picker" at a grocery store.

A bank manager had Morrow placed in handcuffs despite already having an account with the bank and showing his I.D. upon entry, KSTP reported.





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/footage-shows-minnesota-man-wrongfully-detained-while-attempting-to-cash-a-check-at-bank/ar-AARHe6Q

watch whole video as Sgt Justin Pletcher gas lights this poor young man.. "stay calm or I'll have to arrest you"

https://kstp.com/news/banking-while-black-police-video-shows-how-cashing-a-paycheck-led-to-handcuffs/6324616/?cat=1

Despite having an account with the bank and showing his ID, that simple transaction led to a call to police, threats of arrest, and Morrow being placed in handcuffs.

A bank manager told officers he suspected the check was a fake, but police body camera video shows he only called Morrow's employer for verification after the 23-year-old Black man was removed from his office.

The check was, in fact, real.

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"you people always coming in with fake check" and &%$ lying Sgt justin Pletcher (Original Post) Demovictory9 Dec 2021 OP
I hope he sues them malaise Dec 2021 #1
he settled. Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #4
He got paid and the manager is gonna get fired. Botany Dec 2021 #12
Good malaise Dec 2021 #13
The man had an I.D., a leagal check, and an account at the bank Botany Dec 2021 #14
The manager isn't getting fired. Chicago1980 Dec 2021 #17
"U.S. Bank CEO issues apology" Botany Dec 2021 #20
That's My Guess, As Well ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #25
I think at first US Bank was hoping this would just "blow over" but to treat a customer of the ... Botany Dec 2021 #27
Probably So ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2021 #2
I'm really sorry this happened to Joe but if he contacts the right lawyer he just might abqtommy Dec 2021 #3
after the media got hold of the story, the bank settled. Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #5
Thanks. I went to your KSTP link and found this of interest to me: abqtommy Dec 2021 #18
Heartbreaking. Sue the fuck out of them (Nt) FreepFryer Dec 2021 #6
Can't jog, can't drive, can't shop, can't have skittles, can't play loud music, can't vote, can't LoisB Dec 2021 #7
Can't breathe at times, either. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2021 #15
Shocking - but true...... MyOwnPeace Dec 2021 #30
Indeed. LoisB Dec 2021 #31
Agree. Companies should have strictly enforced policies against racism.... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2021 #41
You got it right! Both of you judesedit Dec 2021 #28
This is outrageous. A quick search on Google suggests this bank has a lot of racism in its... NNadir Dec 2021 #8
Not to mention shameful and just flat-out embarrassing. calimary Dec 2021 #10
"Have we really sunk this low?" MyOwnPeace Dec 2021 #36
Plus Cruz, plus Gohmert, plus Graham, DFW Dec 2021 #37
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #43
Banking while Black. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #9
... and that cop. on the video... when Morrow claims racial profiling "be careful what you say, you Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #26
Yeah, that cop needs.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #39
Stupid racist bigot Jackass mahina Dec 2021 #11
By firing the bank manager and the cop. Solomon Dec 2021 #42
This has happened numerous times across the country to blacks and Latinos. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2021 #16
Sad. Whenever a white person says "you people" he puts a stain on that white. PurgedVoter Dec 2021 #19
+100 Well said. nt abqtommy Dec 2021 #21
Yup. People have to be "other"-ized before being discriminated against, pre-judged and maltreated.nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #23
. Maine Abu El Banat Dec 2021 #24
This group of white people are also the first to say, "I'm not racist..." PatrickforB Dec 2021 #34
Banking while Black is apparently a crime in some parts of AmeriQQQa Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #22
It just never stops! Native Dec 2021 #32
I sense...a MAJOR lawsuit in US Bank's near future... PatrickforB Dec 2021 #33
What's up with Minnesota? ecstatic Dec 2021 #35
Not just Minnesota DFW Dec 2021 #38
There's racism everywhere, but people like to pretend some places are better than others. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #44
The bank manager was probably angry because the customer made more money dlk Dec 2021 #40

Botany

(75,511 posts)
12. He got paid and the manager is gonna get fired.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:05 AM
Dec 2021

"U.S. Bank reached a confidential settlement with Morrow last month according to his attorneys, just weeks after 5 INVESTIGATES started asking questions about the incident.

A spokesperson confirmed the branch manager who called police on Joe Morrow is still employed with U.S. Bank and that it is “reviewing the situation.”

https://kstp.com/news/us-bank-apology/6328290/

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
17. The manager isn't getting fired.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:21 AM
Dec 2021

No repercussions for anyone and no apology or accountability.

Botany

(75,511 posts)
20. "U.S. Bank CEO issues apology"
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:26 AM
Dec 2021

And the bank said that it is “reviewing the situation.” IOW once their legal team goes over things he will be fired.


ProfessorGAC

(74,752 posts)
25. That's My Guess, As Well
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:47 AM
Dec 2021

But, summary dismissal would likely have been legally defensible.
His actions embarrassed the company & he's an at-will employee.
Not sure why legal would need to take more than a couple hours.

Botany

(75,511 posts)
27. I think at first US Bank was hoping this would just "blow over" but to treat a customer of the ...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:53 AM
Dec 2021

.... bank so badly let alone an African American should have been reason to fire him ASAP.

ProfessorGAC

(74,752 posts)
29. Probably So
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:58 AM
Dec 2021

Which, of course, is stupid.
Nobody is indispensable, and I'm surmising his temperament is at odds with being a superstar employee.
Should have been fired as soon as legal knew a settlement was prudent.
He embarrassed the company AND he cost them money.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. I'm really sorry this happened to Joe but if he contacts the right lawyer he just might
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:00 AM
Dec 2021

end up owning that bank!

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
18. Thanks. I went to your KSTP link and found this of interest to me:
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:23 AM
Dec 2021

U.S. Bank disputed Morrow's allegations of racial profiling but quietly agreed to a confidential settlement two weeks after 5 INVESTIGATES started asking questions about the incident.

Lawyers and advocates say Morrow's experience raises questions about implicit bias and is part of a national phenomenon that more Black Americans have been documenting in recent years with the social media hashtag "Banking while Black."

LoisB

(11,804 posts)
7. Can't jog, can't drive, can't shop, can't have skittles, can't play loud music, can't vote, can't
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:43 AM
Dec 2021

play with a toy gun, can't protest, can't barbeque in a public park, can't cash a check.... Maybe we need a "what Black folks CAN do" memo.

MyOwnPeace

(17,388 posts)
30. Shocking - but true......
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 09:03 AM
Dec 2021

It's one thing to not be able to 'cash a check' - but to be in a society that allows such brutality - we need to be better......

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,741 posts)
41. Agree. Companies should have strictly enforced policies against racism....
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 07:13 AM
Dec 2021

that included demotion or firing for such actions as this one. They should hold review classes every year with mandatory attendance.

That's the way it's done for safety training in industry and workers are required to complete their training before being allowed to work.

KYEG

NNadir

(36,727 posts)
8. This is outrageous. A quick search on Google suggests this bank has a lot of racism in its...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:52 AM
Dec 2021

organization.

calimary

(88,044 posts)
10. Not to mention shameful and just flat-out embarrassing.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:58 AM
Dec 2021

Have we really sunk this low?

MyOwnPeace

(17,388 posts)
36. "Have we really sunk this low?"
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:04 AM
Dec 2021

Trump - Boebert - Green - Gaetz.............

Sadly, I'm afraid your question has been answered............

DFW

(59,120 posts)
37. Plus Cruz, plus Gohmert, plus Graham,
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:22 AM
Dec 2021

Plus Abbott, plus Gosar, plus Cawthorn, plus Johnson (WI), plus Perdue, plus Alito.................

It is a national shame and a dark stain on our nation that the list seems so endless.

SergeStorms

(19,802 posts)
9. Banking while Black.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:57 AM
Dec 2021

What else could Morrow have done?

Apparently they have very strict "Banking While Black" rules in Minnesota.

Morrow deserves restitution for the racist, inhumane treatment he was shown by USBank.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
26. ... and that cop. on the video... when Morrow claims racial profiling "be careful what you say, you
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:49 AM
Dec 2021

could be arrested".. or something similar is the reply from Sgt. Justin Pletcher... WOW...

SergeStorms

(19,802 posts)
39. Yeah, that cop needs....
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:51 AM
Dec 2021

a solid month of sensitivity and racial profiling training. He automatically assumed Morrow was guilty.

If that's not a possibility, he needs reassignment or dismissal. Minnesota police seem to be poorly trained. This type of thing is happening much too often for this stuff to be an isolated incident.

mahina

(20,089 posts)
11. Stupid racist bigot Jackass
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:01 AM
Dec 2021

I hope both the bank and cop were fired.

How do we heal from this poison?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,741 posts)
16. This has happened numerous times across the country to blacks and Latinos.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:18 AM
Dec 2021

In some parts, trust appears to be proportional to the lightness of you skin.....

PurgedVoter

(2,615 posts)
19. Sad. Whenever a white person says "you people" he puts a stain on that white.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:25 AM
Dec 2021

When a person says, "you people," he has just said he was different. When the next next act is to create injustice, the difference is ethical. Sadly if this man either felt he could get away with this or he felt he was doing the right thing. Possibly both.

Sadly I grew up with these people. A lot of them interact well with and even respect the black people they work with. Yet they despise the black people they do not know. It is impossible to persuade them. If you show them a video of racial injustice, they start twisting it in their mind and before the video is over, they have judged the black victim more harshly than the white monster the video shows.

Some are mostly decent caring folk apart for harboring an entire section of their brain that is ready to twist the truth they see in front of them and in the end help create even more injustice. Others are worse. They delight in their hatred. Twice a week I drive by a ranch that at one time had a chair hanging from a noose tied to the arch over their fancy iron entryway to the ranch. The noose is gone, but just like the Trumpist flags that are finally coming down, a stain was left behind and as I drive by, I think, those people.

Those people are white, just like me, but just as they think they are different and look down on others, I cannot help but think I am different and look down on them. I grew up with them. Some of them were friends. I can think of a few that if the scales fell from their eyes, they would probably cry themselves to death.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,418 posts)
23. Yup. People have to be "other"-ized before being discriminated against, pre-judged and maltreated.nt
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:31 AM
Dec 2021

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,418 posts)
22. Banking while Black is apparently a crime in some parts of AmeriQQQa
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:30 AM
Dec 2021

They demand people work hard and then shit on them when they show the fruits of their labour.

Racists will try to damn you if you do and damn you if you don't. Because racism.

DFW

(59,120 posts)
38. Not just Minnesota
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:33 AM
Dec 2021

I'm from the south, have lived in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.

Believe me, it doesn't stop at the Mason-Dixon line. In college, my two roomies were from the high school we all graduated from. One was from Virginia, and the other was from Massachusetts. I never heard one of them say he was treated better than the other in his home state.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,796 posts)
44. There's racism everywhere, but people like to pretend some places are better than others.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 10:53 AM
Dec 2021

"Down South, white folks don't care how close I get as long as I don't get too big. Up North, white folks don't care how big I get as long as I don't get too close." — Dick Gregory

dlk

(12,977 posts)
40. The bank manager was probably angry because the customer made more money
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what raised their ire.

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