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Frank Zappa nailed their MAGAt asses in the 1980s (Original Post) CousinIT Oct 2021 OP
At the time, being there, I didn't realize how drastic and radical Reagan was. underpants Oct 2021 #1
I did. plimsoll Oct 2021 #10
With you. Reagan was the stalking horse. yardwork Oct 2021 #20
And Zappa was a registered Republican. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #2
He might have been registered Republican but Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #3
How sure of that are you? Bucky Oct 2021 #7
RationalWiki also says he registered Democratic Bucky Oct 2021 #8
Perhaps he wasn't a registered Republican, but he identified as "conservative" Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #22
I think it's clear he used that label to make a point. Bucky Oct 2021 #23
I'm not sure he was registered Republican. Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #9
He was also very much opposed to Tipper Gore's, shall we say, "concern" with music content. cos dem Oct 2021 #12
I'm fairly certain he was a Republican prior to the PMRC. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #21
Citations would help your argument Bucky Oct 2021 #25
I already did, and you already addressed it... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #26
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to quibble Bucky Nov 2021 #27
I think it's more that he wasn't a card carrying moron. plimsoll Oct 2021 #11
Understood the situation. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #4
Truly a man ahead of his time! Initech Oct 2021 #5
Ever read Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World"? Dystopian Optimist Oct 2021 #6
KR TY for Zappa! Cha Oct 2021 #13
I always count on Frank Zappa and George Carlin BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #14
I'm more in the school of Professor Irwin Corey Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #15
Ah yes! The Professor! BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #17
My favorite Zappa quote: lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #16
I have had a conservative tell me, in as many words Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2021 #18
Zappa was a treasure. Miss him. yardwork Oct 2021 #19
He also taught us.... spanone Oct 2021 #24

underpants

(193,482 posts)
1. At the time, being there, I didn't realize how drastic and radical Reagan was.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:28 PM
Oct 2021

Basically it was ENOUGH! You will listen and obey. The white guys are back in charge!!!!

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
10. I did.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:31 PM
Oct 2021

And tons of actual Democrats told me I was exaggerating the dangers. He made people believe absurdities, now we're surprised that they'll commit atrocities. Who knew.

Elessar Zappa

(16,374 posts)
3. He might have been registered Republican but
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:44 PM
Oct 2021

by the mid 80s, he fucking hated them and Reagan. He even set up voter registration booths at his concerts to encourage the youth to vote against the Republicans. He wasn’t a huge fan of the Dems but he viewed them as a better alternative.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
7. How sure of that are you?
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

At least one person in this thread said he was a registered Democrat, hated the GOP, and had libertarian tendencies (thought a flat sales tax would be better than the income tax)

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Frank-Zappa-consider-himself-to-be-an-American-conservative-His-views-seemed-more-consistent-with-libertarianism

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
23. I think it's clear he used that label to make a point.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 06:26 PM
Oct 2021

Everybody is conservative about something. I'm conservative about private property; I'm conservative about the environment (I want to conserve it). What Zappa was advocating was small government, which can be a liberal or a conservative position, depending on what decade your saying it in.

Zappa's politics were libertarian. Flat tax, anti-government, anti-income tax, anti-censorship. But thing he was consistently critical of was the Replacement blican Party, especially the nosy neighbor flavored GOP of the 70s and 80s.

Elessar Zappa

(16,374 posts)
9. I'm not sure he was registered Republican.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:16 PM
Oct 2021

I was just going by what the guy above me posted. It makes more sense to me that he was a registered Dem because he hated the GOP with all his heart.

cos dem

(935 posts)
12. He was also very much opposed to Tipper Gore's, shall we say, "concern" with music content.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:35 PM
Oct 2021

Not that that makes him a Republican. But he was principled in his beliefs, and not necessarily robotically aligned to either party.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
21. I'm fairly certain he was a Republican prior to the PMRC.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:16 AM
Oct 2021

If anything, Zappa was a libertarian... in a truer sense of the word than is commonly used by those who have adopted it today. A classical small "l" liberal, if you will.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
25. Citations would help your argument
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 06:44 PM
Oct 2021

I provided 2 links above saying he registered Domocratic

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
26. I already did, and you already addressed it...
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:21 AM
Nov 2021

Seems little point quibbling over it now, don't you think?

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
27. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to quibble
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:46 PM
Nov 2021

I literally don't see any citations here. Sorry that I made you feel harassed. Not my intention. ☮️💐

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
11. I think it's more that he wasn't a card carrying moron.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:34 PM
Oct 2021

Prior to Reagan that was pretty typical. Prior to Gingrich it was possible. After Tr*mp?

Kid Berwyn

(22,129 posts)
4. Understood the situation.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:51 PM
Oct 2021


“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” — Frank Zappa

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
14. I always count on Frank Zappa and George Carlin
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:10 PM
Oct 2021

To provide a clear and concise assessment of America’s right wing enemies.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. I'm more in the school of Professor Irwin Corey
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:35 PM
Oct 2021

for a clear explanation of things but Zappa and Carlin work too.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
16. My favorite Zappa quote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 09:00 PM
Oct 2021

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. "

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,477 posts)
18. I have had a conservative tell me, in as many words
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 09:21 PM
Oct 2021

That my masters from Harvard was something to be ashamed of.

spanone

(140,410 posts)
24. He also taught us....
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 06:39 PM
Oct 2021

Watch out where the huskies go, And don't you eat that yellow snow

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