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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:48 PM Jan 2021

How will Trumpists ever come to know the truth if they watch only propaganda?

A couple family members who are still rabid Trump supporters refuse to watch any mainstream news, and rely completely on such sources as Fox and Newsmax. How is the truth ever going to get through to them?

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Girard442

(6,779 posts)
2. There's no simple answer to the question of how we find truth in this complicated world.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jan 2021

But to find liars that tell us exactly what we want to hear -- that's a piece of cake. Any damn fool can do it.

exboyfil

(18,309 posts)
3. And the problem now is if Fox does try to give some balance
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jan 2021

The viewers move on to Newsmax and OAN. This requires Fox News to push even further into rightwing crap.

LiberalLoner

(11,456 posts)
4. That's the problem I have.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jan 2021

I ask them to watch abc, cbs, read USA Today, anything - no dice. They say they won’t read the liberal press because it’s all lies.

And if I try to talk about current events they cut me off and talk over me as if it’s painful to hear reality.

I was told by my father that troops are not needed in DC, it’s all a liberal plot to make Trump look bad.

How do you deal with that much bat guano crazy? I’ve decided to just kind of take a break because I can’t deal with it.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
5. They need to be sanctioned yesterday i they know better they no its a lie
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jan 2021

They should not be allowed to have News ... Unless they are truthful no more gray area they can not be trusted ... They need to change to Fox Entertainment Propaganda and Propagandamax...

ZenDem

(442 posts)
6. They won't.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:54 PM
Jan 2021

That's why I don't argue with them. No matter what you say it will be labeled "fake news" or they'll just spew memes at you sprinkled with Youtube vids of "experts" that will back their beliefs.

If it's family, just love them for what they are and avoid any actual discussions.

LiberalLoner

(11,456 posts)
8. But the problem is, they don't want to discuss anything BUT politics, sprinkled with
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jan 2021

Snide remarks about “oh are you still holed up there?”

They have no interest in my life, they just want to use conversation to be snarky and I’ve about reached my limit. Not to mention he was abusive to me when I was a child too. Sometimes you just think, the heck with being a dutiful daughter, I just want out.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
10. That's a different story.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:02 PM
Jan 2021

You don't have to put up with that abuse anymore. Walk away and know that you can't change them or their behavior. If you do have to talk to them and they mention politics, just let it go. You don't have to let them cause that kind of stress.

You are a dutiful daughter, just not a willing victim.

LiberalLoner

(11,456 posts)
11. Thank you. I just decided today to take a break for awhile and was feeling guilty. ❤️
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jan 2021

ZenDem

(442 posts)
13. It'll be good for them, too.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jan 2021

They might not see it that way, but being a snarky asshole is bad for your health.
Enjoy your 'time off'!

JHB

(37,844 posts)
7. Some life-changing event that derails them and their fealty to the Lord Of Disinformation.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

Unfortunately, those tend to be erratic, sporadic, and unreliable.

Turbineguy

(39,524 posts)
9. We don't watch Fox News, because
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jan 2021

we believe they lie.

They watch Fox News because they believe Fox News tells the truth.

So the answer is, they will never know the truth.

The sky is white and the clouds are blue.

Sedona

(3,842 posts)
15. My mother and sister are around the bend
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jan 2021

I can cope with their delusions but what happens when the spell is broken and Biden is inaugurated in six days. Isn't there going to be some kind of melt down? Will the goal posts just move again?

Nitram

(26,551 posts)
17. I'm wondering if enough insurrectionists are put in prison, will Trumpist's start to notice
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:42 PM
Jan 2021

the consequences in the real world for their leader's words and actions. If Trump is tried and convicted by the Senate, and prohibited from holding future office? If Trump and his family and cronies are jailed for crimes and misdemeanors by the states? A glimpse of cold, hard reality might just break the fever dream they're been living for years.

lettucebe

(2,344 posts)
18. Time will tell. My son and DIL (daughter-in-law) won't watch mainstream news
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 07:39 PM
Jan 2021

because it is FAKE NEWS! So, no way they see anything that resembles the truth until they finally realize what they've been watching is so ridiculous it cannot be supported any longer. That's all I've got. It's similar to trying to get someone to change their religion.

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