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babylonsister

(172,443 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:18 AM Jan 2021

Epic Elie Mystal: Apply The Laws We Already Have To White People! 'Tastes Just Like Chicken!'

https://crooksandliars.com/2021/01/Epic-Elie-Mystal-Apply-Law-White-People-Tastes-Like-Chicken


1/09/21 1:20pm
Epic Elie Mystal: Apply The Laws We Already Have To White People! 'Tastes Just Like Chicken!'
Merrick Garland's DOJ doesn't need new laws to properly focus on domestic terrorism. Just prosecute white people with the ones we already have!
By NewsHound Ellen


Elie Mystal, justice correspondent for The Nation, threw down the gauntlet for Biden’s designated attorney general, Merrick Garland.

MYSTAL: There are four attorney generals in history who gave a damn about Black lives and about Black justice. Bobby Kennedy, Janet Reno, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch. That's the list. Edwin Meese was not out here trying to ride or die for Black lives, alright? So, what we have is the department that historically has failed in its mission and simply trying to go back to that failure is not enough, right? I think Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch did good jobs. I think Janet Reno did a good job. But we can do better than even what they were able to accomplish. There are a number of things through executive order, through consent decrees, through an entirely different level of holding police accountable that can be done through the DOJ. And I just hope Garland is up to the task. His record doesn’t necessarily suggest that he is.

The New York Times, when he was nominated to the Supreme Court, The New York TImes did an analysis. In 10 of 14 cases where police criminality or misconduct were on the line. Merrick Garland sided with law enforcement, in 10 of those 14 cases, while he was a district court judge. That's not great, alright? So maybe he’s evolved. Maybe he's ready to reach a higher level. People do change and improve. But that's what Merrick Garland has to do: change and improve. And bring the DOJ to a new level of justice and fairness.


Mystal praised some of Biden’s other picks for the DOJ. But he also called for greater enforcement of the current laws against domestic terrorism, especially right-wing terrorism or white nationalist terrorism.

MYSTAL: Domestic terrorism is our number one threat but I just want to add we do not need new laws to deal with it, alright? We do not need new federal legislation, we do not need a new surveillance state.

Insurrection is already a crime, alright? Conspiracy to commit crimes are already crimes. Felony murder is already a crime. What we need to do is not have a new surveillance state commission. What we need is to take the laws we already have and apply them to white people, for like once. Let's try it. Tastes just like chicken. But take the laws we've got and apply them to white people and see what happens because I think that's the way forward, not with new laws and new regimes and new surveillance.

This is how we make change and improvement: by keeping up the pressure on elected officials. Especially when we’re about to have a new administration that’s inclined to listen.
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Epic Elie Mystal: Apply The Laws We Already Have To White People! 'Tastes Just Like Chicken!' (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2021 OP
Doesn't everyone with half a brain already know this? ananda Jan 2021 #1
Apparently not... babylonsister Jan 2021 #2
No. NT enough Jan 2021 #3
So why is Biden pushing for new domestic terrorism laws? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #6
Got me. Why? ananda Jan 2021 #8
Currently the domestic online terrorist groups can't be monitored like the foreign ones. The risk .. uponit7771 Jan 2021 #9
I Susupect.... Laxman Jan 2021 #4
Looks like it's still Barr's Dirt Services instead of DoJ. The 1st Am. does not protect insurrection Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #7
While I agree we need to use the laws we have, the elephant in the US is White Supremacy Violence TigressDem Jan 2021 #5
***WRONG*** We do NOT have laws that allow the monitoring of domestic terrorist groups like the uponit7771 Jan 2021 #10
+1 2naSalit Jan 2021 #11
Don't know much about Garland's record on the bench, DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #12

ananda

(33,824 posts)
1. Doesn't everyone with half a brain already know this?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:21 AM
Jan 2021

If I do, I'm sure everyone in Biden's admin knows it.

babylonsister

(172,443 posts)
2. Apparently not...
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021
Nearly 50 House members have signed on to a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the House leadership seeking an independent commission to investigate the security failures in Wednesday's riot at the Capitol by supporters of President Donald Trump.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2021/jan/09/the-latest-senator-wants-crime-scene-evidence-pres/

uponit7771

(93,349 posts)
9. Currently the domestic online terrorist groups can't be monitored like the foreign ones. The risk ..
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jan 2021

... is another Red Don or close who'll treat BLM like the FBI tried to do recently and call them a domestic terrorist group too and even go as far as the ACLU.

They need TIGHT ... TIGHT parameters around the dt laws or the white supremacist will include any group they don't like

Laxman

(2,423 posts)
4. I Susupect....
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jan 2021

that the reason the Justice Department is calling the terrorist attack on the Capitol "The First Amendment Demonstrations of January 6, 2021" (talk about euphomisms) is to avoid equal application of the law. If not, wouldn't the Patriot Act be in play?

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
7. Looks like it's still Barr's Dirt Services instead of DoJ. The 1st Am. does not protect insurrection
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:51 AM
Jan 2021

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
5. While I agree we need to use the laws we have, the elephant in the US is White Supremacy Violence
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jan 2021

We need to DEFINE all groups that would commit violence on fellow US citizens and even upon the elected US leaders ad DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

USE the laws on the books, don't put cameras up everyone's ass, but write it up. THIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

The US needs to admit that White people aren't the ONLY PEOPLE that matter.

BLACK LIVES, BROWN LIVES, every color of the RAINBOW of LIVES DO MATTER.


uponit7771

(93,349 posts)
10. ***WRONG*** We do NOT have laws that allow the monitoring of domestic terrorist groups like the
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 12:11 PM
Jan 2021

... foreign ones.

The change in laws is not in the prosecution afterwards its in the monitoring right now

We can go ... WAY FURTHER ... in monitoring regular ISIS than Vanilla ISIS

DeminPennswoods

(17,085 posts)
12. Don't know much about Garland's record on the bench,
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

but being a judge is different from being a prosecutor.

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