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Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:24 AM Jan 2021

Some of us have been shouting warnings for 2 months about what was coming mostly we were mocked here

"stop worrying"

"That CANNOT happen"

"Give it a rest pal"

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Some of us have been shouting warnings for 2 months about what was coming mostly we were mocked here (Original Post) Saboburns Jan 2021 OP
yep. KG Jan 2021 #1
I hear ya. Girard442 Jan 2021 #2
It didn't treestar Jan 2021 #3
All they did was terrorize Congress people, kill a cop and it's no big deal, right? Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #8
Geez that's overkill treestar Jan 2021 #10
Geez that's projection Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #13
Nobody is arguing we ignore it but the predictions of the Doomers didn't materialize. Kaleva Jan 2021 #26
Some of them did Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #41
Yeah, the fact they attempted it and 4 peopled died kcr Jan 2021 #22
Wasn't really expecting collusion from the DoD and others soothsayer Jan 2021 #4
Yep! servermsh Jan 2021 #5
I didn't specifically foresee the Capitol Building being stormed... Silent3 Jan 2021 #6
all we can do llashram Jan 2021 #7
Yes, the usual sayers of nay RandiFan1290 Jan 2021 #9
Keep right on warning everyone PirateRo Jan 2021 #11
Thank you Saboburns Jan 2021 #12
Some have been shouting warnings for 5 years. maxrandb Jan 2021 #14
This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jan 2021 #16
I recall it more of saying it won't succeed in stopping the certification of the EC vote Kaleva Jan 2021 #15
This wasn't a "protest". First Speaker Jan 2021 #29
The riot didn't accomplish what the Doomers were predicating. Kaleva Jan 2021 #32
Poor you. Squinch Jan 2021 #17
QED Saboburns Jan 2021 #20
Go with that. Because, really, it's all about you and how no one would listen to you. Squinch Jan 2021 #28
Lord. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #18
QED Saboburns Jan 2021 #21
Those of us who keep tabs on Q Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #19
The thing about Wednesday that surprised me wasn't that they did what they did herding cats Jan 2021 #24
Post removed Post removed Jan 2021 #23
Not sure I've seen much here about people foreseeing the mob Hav Jan 2021 #25
I do remember experts that deal with right wing extremists JonLP24 Jan 2021 #27
I saw it the day after it was announced that Joe won! Initech Jan 2021 #30
Looking at your posts for the past 2 months, you are not one of those who shouted warnings Kaleva Jan 2021 #31
Well done. cwydro Jan 2021 #43
It didn't happen Sympthsical Jan 2021 #33
This would be a great OP StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #35
+1 Kaleva Jan 2021 #39
Outstanding. Saboburns Jan 2021 #40
. Squinch Jan 2021 #42
The pushback was against the "We're DOOMED! Democracy is OVER" prognostications StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #34
I can't begin to count the number of Doom and Gloom and end of Democracy posts panader0 Jan 2021 #37
You have a point. dawg Jan 2021 #36
We didn't lose the democracy because the democracy worked - because we made it work StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #38
Were you one of them? I'll go have a look at all of your posts MineralMan Jan 2021 #44
You are confusing what you predicted Ms. Toad Jan 2021 #45
Well, if you were among the little "sky is falling and our nation's doomed" Hortensis Jan 2021 #46

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. It didn't
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jan 2021

They did not take over the government; they did not overthrow it. They couldn't. They are just stupid if they thought they were going to.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
8. All they did was terrorize Congress people, kill a cop and it's no big deal, right?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jan 2021

They didn't overthrow the government so everyone should stop making a big deal out of it, huh? Earlier you were crying crocodile tears over the poor terrorist who was shot and killed saying she didn't deserve to die. How about the Capitol cop? Any tears over him or is his death no big deal too?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. Geez that's overkill
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jan 2021

Either/or thinking. Straw men. Emotional reasoning.

The people claiming there could be an actual coup are wrong. It's a lot harder than what they did. They did not take over the government and could not. That is all I said. Calm down, geez.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
13. Geez that's projection
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jan 2021

Emotional blindness to fact on your part. Stop minimizing what has gone on and defending terrorists. Looking at your past posts belie your post. Look in the mirror before giving advice to others.

Kaleva

(40,023 posts)
26. Nobody is arguing we ignore it but the predictions of the Doomers didn't materialize.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
41. Some of them did
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jan 2021

I opined against the doomers who said dump wouldn't leave or that they would take the win away from Biden. I said that was defeatist. They were wrong. But some things they were right about.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
22. Yeah, the fact they attempted it and 4 peopled died
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jan 2021

while causing destruction and terrorizing the people inside, and the whole country, is nothing.

You need to learn the definition of strawman.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
4. Wasn't really expecting collusion from the DoD and others
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jan 2021

Otherwise they would have been handled easily... I think.

servermsh

(1,406 posts)
5. Yep!
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

I made a few posts that this was my main concern. Mobs of people somehow interrupting the process.

And the police forces have to be ready for more.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
6. I didn't specifically foresee the Capitol Building being stormed...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jan 2021

...but Trump stoking violent response from his supporters, that seemed very likely and predictable to me.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
7. all we can do
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jan 2021

as I have learned, IF NOT WRONG stick to your guns no matter who mocks you. Thick skin necessary here as in all political forums and live groups.

RandiFan1290

(6,632 posts)
9. Yes, the usual sayers of nay
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jan 2021

They are still doubling down claiming it didn't succeed so it didn't happen.

They are extremely obvious

PirateRo

(933 posts)
11. Keep right on warning everyone
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jan 2021

It’s important to raise the flag, hoist that trial balloon every single time. It triggers the conversation and having that conversation is the real deal.

Back in the day, there was the majority report and the minority report. This was an attempt to give honest weight to the complete discussion and not silence those voices. I was always more interested in the minority report.

You can see that silencing in operation, too. It frequently starts with, “Who could have known...?”

maxrandb

(16,931 posts)
14. Some have been shouting warnings for 5 years.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

Heck, some have been screaming for 40 years, or since Ray-Gun

Kaleva

(40,023 posts)
15. I recall it more of saying it won't succeed in stopping the certification of the EC vote
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

A number of members were saying that Pence might throw out the votes of some states and Biden wouldn't be certified.

I don't recall on single person saying there won't be a protest. There was and it failed miserably in attempting to accomplish what they wanted to do.

Johnny2X2X

(23,515 posts)
19. Those of us who keep tabs on Q
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

I’ve had posts removed because they were deemed too far fetched. This group of Q followers have been obsessed with the child sex ring conspiracy theory for years. I knew how powerful that is because if you believe it it excuses anything. People will kill and feel zero remorse if they think they’re fighting pedophiles. That’s what is driving the most bloodthirsty of them, they’re all in on that.

And they’d been screaming about storming the Capitol for weeks. Everyone knew what was coming in Wednesday. When these people go to court, their social media will be used to prove premeditation, they weren’t just going along, they knew that storming the halls of Congress was why they came to DC.

herding cats

(19,868 posts)
24. The thing about Wednesday that surprised me wasn't that they did what they did
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:40 PM
Jan 2021

I expected them to be a rabid mob from all I'd read they were saying online. It was that they weren't squashed like bugs for doing it.

That they didn't have the proper police in place to quash this when it rose up showed me just how precarious our situation is under these dangerous whack job politicians.

This is why politicians were cowering to Trump. They were afraid of his mob being unleashed on them physically.

Response to Saboburns (Original post)

Hav

(5,969 posts)
25. Not sure I've seen much here about people foreseeing the mob
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jan 2021

storming the Capitol. I've rather seen many speculations that the Congress somehow won't count the electoral votes for Biden and needless questions about what will happen if case x happens. The Repub's attempts to stop the inevitable clearly failed and never had any chance of success given the numbers in Congress.

That the Repubs would try every bs to play to their base was pretty much expected though.

JonLP24

(29,751 posts)
27. I do remember experts that deal with right wing extremists
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

We're warning about this sort of thing before the election and those threats were often downplayed.

Kaleva

(40,023 posts)
31. Looking at your posts for the past 2 months, you are not one of those who shouted warnings
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

You are actually pretty upbeat.

I see one post where you say you expect some military action overseas and another where you say Trump doesn't have a plan; that he's just acting out but not one of the kind you describe in the heading of your OP.


On Wednesday, you said this in response to the riot:

"We can use these events to our advantage!"

I did only look at every post you made in GD since the beginning of November so there is the possibility that you shouted warnings in other forums here or you are actually talking about other members shouting warnings.

Sympthsical

(10,735 posts)
33. It didn't happen
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

Our institutions held against a frontal assault. The votes were certified. The Electoral College convened and voted. The court system threw out dozens of frivolous challenges. Congress was seated. The electoral votes were certified. Biden and Harris will enter office on the 20th.

The military made it well-known that Trump needed to get bent.

The only thing Trump managed was to torpedo himself by whipping up an insurrectionist mob that had a 0% chance of succeeding in keeping Trump in power. Dangerous? Yes. A national tragedy for a country that prides itself on being the oldest democracy? Also yes.

But the systems we have in place to prevent all that Trump attempted did their jobs at the moment of their greatest testing.

For me, that's something to celebrate. Our constitutional system was sorely tested, and it passed. An autocrat tried to break our system with every tool at his disposal, and he failed miserably.

I always knew between Election Day and Inauguration was going to be an absolute Trumpian shitshow to eclipse all of his previous shitshows. I did not imagine an attack on the Capitol by discount Y'All Qaeda, but it was always going to be something.

And the nation is sling-shotting right back in his face. Outside of the moronscape, Americans are appalled, social media are pulling out his fangs, and our Democratic leaders are now politically empowered by the capital they earned from this, to go as hard at a President as I think has happened in American history.

The dumbass didn't shoot himself in the foot. He took a shotgun to his face.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
34. The pushback was against the "We're DOOMED! Democracy is OVER" prognostications
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jan 2021

But there weren't many denying that there would be violence or riots - most agreed that that was likely but said it wouldn't stop Biden's election from being certified and him from becoming president or keep Trump in power a minute after noon on 1/20.

And that has, so far, proven correct.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
37. I can't begin to count the number of Doom and Gloom and end of Democracy posts
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:40 PM
Jan 2021

that I've seen here, and not just in the last few months. And the sky is falling too.
This nation is much strong than those people think. But yeah, there is work to do.
I believe that lawmakers have learned and I hope that the media have learned too.
I've also seen innumerable posts about leaving this country, turning tail and running.

dawg

(10,777 posts)
36. You have a point.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jan 2021

We should never take anything for granted. It looks like American democracy will live another two years, but we'll never know how close we just came to losing it. And, of course, it isn't really over yet.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
38. We didn't lose the democracy because the democracy worked - because we made it work
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

That's how democracies work ...

MineralMan

(149,980 posts)
44. Were you one of them? I'll go have a look at all of your posts
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jan 2021

for the last two months if you'll do the same for mine. OK?

When were you mocked. Just post a link to the thread where that happened.

Ms. Toad

(37,902 posts)
45. You are confusing what you predicted
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:01 PM
Jan 2021

as to the law, congressional, and court decisions with what anyone who has been watching and listening to Trump and his mobs expected as to their criminal behavior.

The military (as a whole) did not attempt to stop counting electoral votes
Trump did not declare martial law
Pence, and the Congress, did their jobs
The courts have rejected Trump's attempts to overturn the election 63 times
Biden has been formally declared president-elect

That said, everyone I know, who did not sleep through the attacks on the statehouses in MI and OH, or the plots against the governor of MI expected violence Wed. That is different in nature from endless prediction that the political system would fail - and that the election would be overturned by political machinations.

The ONLY thing that surprised me were the capital police officers who did not seem to make any attempt to bar entry to the building at one of the entrances to the building.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Well, if you were among the little "sky is falling and our nation's doomed"
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jan 2021

crowd, then so far you were wrong and those telling you our nation would hold were right.

Take a look around, long breath out, and sleep well.

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