John Dean thinks Trump is the one who recorded Georgia's Raffensperger and released the tape

[turbinetree]

Published January 03, 2021
By Sarah K. Burris

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Former White House counsel to Richard Nixon, John Dean, took to Twitter Sunday evening to speculate that the one behind the now-infamous extortion tape of Donald Trump may have been the president or one of his staff.

Dean noted that the audio of the recording made Trump sound the loudest and the clearest. That indicates that the person recording it is the clearer one. He also said that it sounds almost as if the others on the call are on a speakerphone, which would make sense if Trump or his staff was recording it near the president's phone.

If Trump was the one behind the call, it begs the question of whether other calls he makes are recorded. How many of them were recorded? With whom? And why they haven't been released by the president who pledged full transparency.

https://www.rawstory.com/did-trump-record-raffensperger-call/

And just guess what the traitor wants to do now with his modus operandi ............ that's right blame the other guy and sue

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sues-georgia-official-recording/

[BigmanPigman]

1. Keith Olbermann agrees with him too.

Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) Tweeted:
If one man knows about White House tape recordings, it’s my esteemed friend Mr. Dean.

His conclusion: the recording was made AT TRUMP’S END OF THE CONVERSATION.

Link to tweet

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[Denzil_DC]

2. I believe Dean's only speculating based on voice volume and quality.

The only source I can find about the recording's provenance so far is the New York Times write-up (my bold):

Officials in the secretary of state’s office recorded Saturday’s call, and Mr. Raffensperger told his advisers that he did not want to release a transcript or a recording unless the president attacked state officials or misrepresented what had been discussed, according to a person familiar with his direction.

As expected, that attack came in a tweet on Sunday morning, in which Mr. Trump claimed that Mr. Raffensperger “was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!”

In a response on Twitter, Mr. Raffensperger wrote: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true. The truth will come out.” The recording of the call was made public several hours later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/03/us/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia.html

[turbinetree]

4. Maybe but then you have to wonder if this , now the deflection game is being spun.........

https://www.rawstory.com/gop-leaders-rage-trump-recorded/

It prompted historian Michael Beschloss to ask how many other examples there are of calls like this from Trump to Republican officeholders.

"As reporters, we have documented many similar 'orders' Trump has handed down...instructing John Kelly to give Jared Kushner a security clearance, demanding Don McGahn help him shut down the Russia probe, etc," tweeted Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig, agreeing with Beschloss.

I think Beschloss and Dean are on to something...............

[Denzil_DC]

8. I think I'll break a habit of mine and invoke Occam's razor here.

There have definitely been other calls between Trump and Republican officeholders in this context. Only the other day he was on a Zoom call with, IIRC, four states' representatives to discuss the issues. That's beside the point Dean was trying to make.

I can't see anything that Dean's (and Obermann's) theory adds to what seems a clear narrative: the GA officials taped the call, which doesn't seem unreasonable, and decided to release the recording when Trump went on the attack and lied about what was discussed. Trump's a would-be Machiavelli, but when it comes down to it, he's a crap, flailing strategist, not a mastermind.

[elleng]

12. he's a crap, flailing strategist, not a mastermind.

[turbinetree]

16. And he is cornered and this makes him more dangerous

[Denzil_DC]

17. But infinitely more accident-prone. n/t

[onenote]

3. That would make reports that Trump is suing over the recording and release rather strange.

So, I think Mr. Dean is mistaken.

[turbinetree]

13. I surely don't know but he is known to have done this stuff before

he has been know to ask for quid pro quo on a lot things, and he is trying to do it now.
I really would not put it past him to blackmail anyone, this just shows how far he has taken this country down and for all of those concerned people that thought he learned his lesson and all those people that are going to pull there shenanigan's this coming Wednesday, should resign or not be seated.
We are now in serious national security grounds here and what he is doing is absolutely dangerous and his enablers are dangerous.
The only thing I have is my vote and it is a vote to protect this democracy, he should have been be censured yesterday in my opinion , since the Impeachment process failed ....my

[Bev54]

5. Raffensperger admitted to releasing the audio after

Trump misrepresented the call on twitter, in other words he lied.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

15. I can't find a link on Raffensperger admitting that.

Help?

[Bev54]

18. I am not sure where I read the announcement but

I thought it was on DU

[Bev54]

21. Here is the original tweet

but then there was another announcement with it, that explained that Trump had lied on twitter, included Trump's tweet and that was why the audio was released.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

24. TY.. ".. the truth will come out.. ".. Sounds

like Raffensperger recorded it to me!

[Vivienne235729]

22. I read that too tonight but can't remember where exactly. I know Raffensperger tweeted that he would

Respond to trump w the truth bc trump (as usual) lied about Raffensperger.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

23. Thanks Bev & Vivienne.

I think i'm still confused. It does sound like R will clarify. Did R make that statement before the audio was released?

[Vivienne235729]

25. I am assuming he did. But I didn't check the dates and times of the v. Wapotweet

[Bev54]

28. Yes

[occupant]

6. Every call within the White H is recorded

I believe I read somewhere that every call to and from the White House is recorded.Security purposes. I have also read that tRump has a penchant for both video and audio recordings .Any lawsuits he files seems to me to be to just more bluff and bluster, HE would be incriminating himself...

[BigmanPigman]

10. A lot of us want to know what all his calls are about...

As reporters, we have documented many similar "orders" Trump has handed down...instructing John Kelly to give Jared Kushner a security clearance, demanding Don McGahn help him shut down the Russia probe, etc.
@BeschlossDC is right:
What about all the ones we *don't* know about?

Link to tweet

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[regnaD kciN]

7. That doesn't make sense, even for Mad King Donald...

...suing the SoS afterward would do nothing to overturn the election.

If Dean’s observations are correct, I’d theorize someone on the staff or national intelligence put a tap on Trump’s own phone, and leaked it to stop him.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

9. Have the Raffensperger people denied recording/releasing it?

The voice loudness seems weak, since trump always has to out-loud everybody else anyway. OTOH, trump probably thinks he did a great job on the call, so maybe he did record/release it. Maybe everybody recorded it & released it. P.S.: i just read Raffensperger said he recorded/released it.

[Mr.Bill]

11. Maybe Dean is just

trying to kick Trump's paranoia up a notch by making him think he was betrayed by someone close to him.

I don't like Dean, but I think he is clever enough to do something like this.

[turbinetree]

14. I also do not like Dean he placed this country in a national security situation

but .....he is warning this country, this guy is more than dangerous he is cornered just like Nixon was but more so........

[Wawannabe]

19. Run him out on a rail!

https://m.

[Quixote1818]

20. What would Trump have to gain by exposing himself like this? I don't get it?

But I know Trump is delusional and often thinks something makes him look amazing when in fact it just shows he is a criminal to anyone with half a brain.

[LisaL]

26. As far as I am concerned, that's ridiculous.

And never mind that Trump is going to sue Georgia SOS for releasing the tape.

[Demonaut]

27. see below

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214798783