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CurtEastPoint

(19,719 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:05 PM Dec 2020

Maskhole: HVAC guy refused to put a mask on. I said mask or leave. He left.

This is the guy I have used for 15 years. I know he's a Trumper; never was obnoxious about it but I finally said fuck it. I found another service person who came come this PM. It's 54 in the house and a tad chilly but fuck that crap. Goddamn trumper asshole.

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Maskhole: HVAC guy refused to put a mask on. I said mask or leave. He left. (Original Post) CurtEastPoint Dec 2020 OP
My furnace guys all wear masks and my unit is outside. nt leftyladyfrommo Dec 2020 #1
Good for you! RainCaster Dec 2020 #2
Yup, best way to get back at'em is to vote with your wallet... nt mitch96 Dec 2020 #63
My unit is outside, so masking would be up to them. cwydro Dec 2020 #3
Even if your heat was off in December? marybourg Dec 2020 #7
" My unit is outside,", I'd zip up. Hotler Dec 2020 #8
Your thermostat and evaporator coils are not outside. rateyes Dec 2020 #30
I have never heard them described that way, but they should only be grantcart Dec 2020 #34
Good One padfun Dec 2020 #68
Nor the air handler either I shouldn't imagine. Ligyron Dec 2020 #62
Lol. cwydro Dec 2020 #41
Damn straight! MontanaMama Dec 2020 #4
plenty of clues about him but onethatcares Dec 2020 #5
My thoughts exactly. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2020 #17
Exactly. I've asked several who insist the polls are corrupt " have you volunteered?" oldsoftie Dec 2020 #57
Good for you! I would have done the exact same thing. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #6
You did the right thing. BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #9
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2020 #15
Bold of you to go without heat over the mask issue. Massive respect. Good for you. I hope you get LizBeth Dec 2020 #10
The HVAC company was here recently in my building checking out the heating systems. Every one of RKP5637 Dec 2020 #11
I've always found someone even better when I've had to drop marybourg Dec 2020 #12
Yelp about it on Yelp. Beakybird Dec 2020 #13
I second that. VA_Jill Dec 2020 #40
Unless he is the owner of the company, report him. There is no liability protection for this Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #14
one man shop CurtEastPoint Dec 2020 #26
Well at least he won't get paid for your job...he keeps it up, it could hurt him...if he Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #56
Be sure to inform company of real reason he was sent back. Otherwise he'll lie to them about you. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #16
Being cold for the rest of the day is better than ending up in the ICU. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #18
I'm glad you're protecting your health and that of others. nt Ilsa Dec 2020 #19
You were right to do that. FoxNewsSucks Dec 2020 #20
I had an emergency plumbing issue toward the beginning of the pandemic. demmiblue Dec 2020 #21
Moscow Mitch wants to immunize spreader businesses from tort liability. Marcuse Dec 2020 #22
You absolutely did the correct thing! Do not risk your health and safety because of maskholes. And niyad Dec 2020 #23
Good for you. Couple of months ago we had to call in a fridge repairman, & he was very compliant Hekate Dec 2020 #24
did u complain to his employer? or was he the employer ? AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #25
one man shop CurtEastPoint Dec 2020 #27
ok. whelp, he just lost an account of his stupidity. AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #52
Was just reading a story about a Covid death. pamela Dec 2020 #28
Good for you to stand up to him Marthe48 Dec 2020 #29
Wow. Self-employed and won't wear a mask Demobrat Dec 2020 #31
Write his co up on yelp & Angie's list! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #32
Agree. Duty to Warn Bobstandard Dec 2020 #37
Unless doing so would cause peoperty vandalism SheltieLover Dec 2020 #45
Patriots stand for principal Bobstandard Dec 2020 #70
+1 DesertRat Dec 2020 #48
Yes! And on NextDoor. Very objectively, passing on info to others, Hortensis Dec 2020 #61
power paul91046 Dec 2020 #33
Run into a few like that over they years. It's Georgia. Way to go. Hoyt Dec 2020 #35
My furnace people and the cable people wear both masks and paper booties over their shoes. appleannie1 Dec 2020 #36
Good for you. Absolutely the right thing to do. dchill Dec 2020 #38
boy do i feel ya. mopinko Dec 2020 #39
An anti-masker, who makes his living in other people's homes? Paladin Dec 2020 #42
Probably would have put the little booties on to protect your floor, but no mask greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #43
Good. mwooldri Dec 2020 #44
We had a water main break about a week ago. MineralMan Dec 2020 #46
put a negative review on his Yelp TomDaisy Dec 2020 #47
Ya did the right thing Blue Owl Dec 2020 #49
I suggest you post a review on Yelp and if he violated public health rules in your area, report him. Liberty Belle Dec 2020 #50
Mask or Leave JGug1 Dec 2020 #51
What A Fucking Brainwashed IDIOT! Cha Dec 2020 #53
Every service person I've had since February has asked me if they need a mask. CaptYossarian Dec 2020 #54
Right on! So tired of these assholes. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #55
would rather lose business than displease Hair Furor mnmoderatedem Dec 2020 #58
All the service people in our area wear masks and are very careful. A guy like that would be fired. Nitram Dec 2020 #59
We had to call a plumber when our kitchen sink had a catastrophic failure. tanyev Dec 2020 #60
Gaiters aren't as effective as 2-layer cloth or medical masks, but they're better than nothing. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #73
You should review him on Yelp or Google JDC Dec 2020 #64
his lack of respect for his customers is stunning Skittles Dec 2020 #65
I automatically wear n95 mask in every customer's house Tribetime Dec 2020 #66
If he works for a company, not himself, report him. blueinredohio Dec 2020 #67
I did the same thing with another service person I was using. Why am i supporting a weird trumper? mdbl Dec 2020 #69
That is OUTRAGEOUS! BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #71
All of my service people have volunteered to wear mask. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #72
I'm trying to check every doctor, plumber, etc., and purge every R Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #74
I intend to do this too... Trueblue Texan Dec 2020 #75
There used to be a zoomable map of the US that showed every politician donation by every entity in Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #78
I've been asking straight out when making an appointment about their use of PPE. Liberal In Texas Dec 2020 #76
Good for you! Can you Tien1985 Dec 2020 #77

RainCaster

(13,247 posts)
2. Good for you!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:10 PM
Dec 2020

The health of his customers should never be at risk because of his personal beliefs. Rate him on Google, retelling this event.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. My unit is outside, so masking would be up to them.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:11 PM
Dec 2020


Not sure I’d let anyone in my house right now, masked or not.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
34. I have never heard them described that way, but they should only be
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:22 PM
Dec 2020

Outside with another consenting unit.

😅

Ligyron

(7,981 posts)
62. Nor the air handler either I shouldn't imagine.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:54 PM
Dec 2020

You know, the blower thing that actually moves the heated air throughout the house...

MontanaMama

(24,568 posts)
4. Damn straight!
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:12 PM
Dec 2020

Good for you. We can’t change these assholes but at least we can hit them where it hurts.

We had to call AAA a couple months ago for a dead battery in my husband’s diesel truck. We specifically asked that AAA not send a mechanic from a particular towing company due to their flouting their no-mask baloney on social media. AAA was very interested in knowing what this towing company had been doing. I got a follow up call from them about it after the fact.

onethatcares

(16,927 posts)
5. plenty of clues about him but
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:15 PM
Dec 2020

he just tossed money out the window. What kind of idjit has more than he needs. What kind of idjit wouldn't believe in customer service?

magats I guess.

wow, to toss a 15 year client..........how stupid can one be?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,393 posts)
17. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:26 PM
Dec 2020

As long as they pay their bills, you don't blow off a customer, even in good times. But let's not forget that these are the same people that are (supposedly) willing to die for Trump. They won't, of course, but they do like saying they will.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
57. Exactly. I've asked several who insist the polls are corrupt " have you volunteered?"
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:26 PM
Dec 2020

I mean, anyone can volunteer to work at the polls or be an observer, so why arent YOU going to help catch the illegal voters or illegal counting?
NONE of them have. Believe me, if they did, they'd be crowing about it on FB

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
9. You did the right thing.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Dec 2020

I’m surprised really - even here in ruby red Idaho our HVAC guys wear gloves and masks at all times. Just remember - if they don’t give a shit about you, imagine who much they care about your HVAC equipment.

LizBeth

(11,220 posts)
10. Bold of you to go without heat over the mask issue. Massive respect. Good for you. I hope you get
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Dec 2020

warm soon.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
11. The HVAC company was here recently in my building checking out the heating systems. Every one of
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Dec 2020

them had a mask on and all tenants were requested to wear masks too! There was absolutely no bullshit about masks with this HVAC company. I would do the same as you if I had an HVAC guy come in my place walking around unmasked. Fuck them, there are too many alternatives.

marybourg

(13,572 posts)
12. I've always found someone even better when I've had to drop
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Dec 2020

a long-time, trusted tradesperson for some reason.

Demsrule86

(71,274 posts)
14. Unless he is the owner of the company, report him. There is no liability protection for this
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:20 PM
Dec 2020

sort of thing.

Demsrule86

(71,274 posts)
56. Well at least he won't get paid for your job...he keeps it up, it could hurt him...if he
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Dec 2020

lives long enough with a mask and all.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,038 posts)
16. Be sure to inform company of real reason he was sent back. Otherwise he'll lie to them about you. nt
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:22 PM
Dec 2020

Irish_Dem

(77,123 posts)
18. Being cold for the rest of the day is better than ending up in the ICU.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Dec 2020

I would have done the same thing.

I always assume people who do not wear masks are Covid positive.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,388 posts)
20. You were right to do that.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:31 PM
Dec 2020

It means he won't wear a mask anywhere else either. No one in their right mind would let someone in their house who has been in a multitude of other houses and public places without wearing any kind of mask.

demmiblue

(38,849 posts)
21. I had an emergency plumbing issue toward the beginning of the pandemic.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:32 PM
Dec 2020

The technician had no problems masking up (although I did have to remind him). Today, I wouldn't have to ask (learning curve and all).

I have seen a few HVAC technicians over the months entering houses while I was on trips to the grocery store; all were wearing masks.

Goddamn is right!

niyad

(128,175 posts)
23. You absolutely did the correct thing! Do not risk your health and safety because of maskholes. And
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:42 PM
Dec 2020

definitely rate and report him. Do you have neighborhood app?

Hekate

(100,026 posts)
24. Good for you. Couple of months ago we had to call in a fridge repairman, & he was very compliant
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:44 PM
Dec 2020

We asked, he masked. I held out a bottle of hand sanitizer and squirted it on his outheld hands. Nice, polite. Did his job and stayed awhile to give us advice.

You did right.

pamela

(3,477 posts)
28. Was just reading a story about a Covid death.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:57 PM
Dec 2020

The son said his Dad had been really careful but they think he got it from a mask-less handyman.

Marthe48

(22,197 posts)
29. Good for you to stand up to him
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 01:57 PM
Dec 2020

Maybe when he loses more customers, one way or another, he'll get it.

Demobrat

(10,238 posts)
31. Wow. Self-employed and won't wear a mask
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:09 PM
Dec 2020

in a customer’s home, when asked politely. That pretty much says he’s not wearing a mask anywhere, ever.

The community needs to be warned about this guy. Review him on Yelp, and on Nextdoor if you have it. Warn your neighbors and friends.

Maybe he has so much business he can afford to lose good customers, but people who are at risk can’t afford to have him in their homes. How terrible to be careful, do everything right, give up so much, and end up infected anyway because your furnace needed work.

Just the thought makes me want to cry. Spread the word.

Bobstandard

(2,061 posts)
37. Agree. Duty to Warn
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:32 PM
Dec 2020

You will be doing prospective customers a favor by warning them about his unsafe business practices on Yelp and Nextdoor Some would say it’s your duty. And I agree

Bobstandard

(2,061 posts)
70. Patriots stand for principal
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 10:25 PM
Dec 2020

There are times when patriots have to stand up for principal, even if there are risks. If you don’t want to do that, don’t. But don’t council others to avoid principled action just because you don’t have the courage to.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Yes! And on NextDoor. Very objectively, passing on info to others,
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:32 PM
Dec 2020

that you were unable to continue with his services because he refused to wear a mask at your home during the height of the Covid pandemic. And, of course, offer the name of the HVAC guy who came promptly and in mask.

Psychologists say concern about what other would think of them is the strongest factor that influences people to behave well, or avoid misbehavior. Obviously didn't occur to this schmuck that potentially his entire market might learn about this.

paul91046

(30 posts)
33. power
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:19 PM
Dec 2020

assholes from the cruel party piss and moan when it happens to them but financial power IS political power. it's way past time to boycott right wing haters which is, in an individual way, what you've done. we do not spend our money on right wingers hate mongers nor any company that advertises on hate radio, etc....and we let them know.

appleannie1

(5,379 posts)
36. My furnace people and the cable people wear both masks and paper booties over their shoes.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:32 PM
Dec 2020

The maskhole probably wonders why he is not real busy.

mopinko

(73,121 posts)
39. boy do i feel ya.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:38 PM
Dec 2020

i had a mobile locksmith that left when i told him he had to mask up and stay masked back in august.
and ups AND usps have fucked w me no end because i complained about maskhole delivery ppl.

Paladin

(31,854 posts)
42. An anti-masker, who makes his living in other people's homes?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:43 PM
Dec 2020

Fuck him. You did the correct thing. If you have a neighborhood association, pass the incident on so other people are made aware of it.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
43. Probably would have put the little booties on to protect your floor, but no mask
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:43 PM
Dec 2020

Put plainly: an asshole.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

mwooldri

(10,752 posts)
44. Good.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

Sorry you have to stay cold longer. Even though as a truck driver I stay relatively isolated from everyone else my employers keep on saying "wear a mask" when on shipper's or consignee's property. Though if no-one is within 53 feet of me (length of trailer) I'll drop the mask because my protective glasses get fogged up so easily. Otherwise mask on when out in public.

MineralMan

(150,072 posts)
46. We had a water main break about a week ago.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:04 PM
Dec 2020

I called the municipal water company to report it. A couple of trucks pulled up and they started checking things out. Both workers were masked, to protect each other. I talked to them after they had finished their evaluation, while wearing a mask and standing about 20 feet away. An hour later, there were six trucks, a backhoe, a pavement cutter vehicle with a compressor and jack-hammers, and lots of workers. Everyone had masks on as they worked. Someone came to the doors to tell people that their water would be off for a couple of hours. Masked, and rang the doorbell, and then backed off about 15 feet to inform me of the shut-off.

I called at 3 PM. At 10 PM, the break was repaired, the hole was filled, and everyone was gone. The next day they replaced the asphalt to finish the repair. That's how that kind of stuff should be handled.

I'd have sent the HVAC guy away, too. Then, a day or two later, I'd call him and tell him why and that he might want to consider changing his anti-mask attitude. I'd do him that favor, but would never call him again for work on my system.

Liberty Belle

(9,694 posts)
50. I suggest you post a review on Yelp and if he violated public health rules in your area, report him.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 03:57 PM
Dec 2020

This could spare others the aggravation that you endured and teach him a valuable lesson.

JGug1

(320 posts)
51. Mask or Leave
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:07 PM
Dec 2020

NO WAY anyone is coming into my house without a mask. Good on YOU. Put a sweater and a coat on and when you call the next place ask if their people are masking.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
54. Every service person I've had since February has asked me if they need a mask.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:51 PM
Dec 2020

Each conversation has taken place through my screen door with the glass down. It's because I don't answer without my mask on. (As a former teacher, I now have to "model" good behavior for grown-ups.) One service guy came just minutes after the hospital told me that Dad had died from the Trump virus. I made it a point to share that with him.

It helps that I have one leg and they see me in a wheelchair.

What doesn't help is that I haven't seen my (Trumper) prosthetic guy since June, when I was the only one wearing a mask of five in the place and haven't been to P/T since February because both therapists are Trumpers.

These people work in health care?

Nitram

(26,582 posts)
59. All the service people in our area wear masks and are very careful. A guy like that would be fired.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:01 PM
Dec 2020

Is he an independent contractor? If he is, give him a bad review on Angie's List or a similar local online review site.

tanyev

(48,187 posts)
60. We had to call a plumber when our kitchen sink had a catastrophic failure.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 06:21 PM
Dec 2020

He showed up wearing a neck gaiter and it looked good at the door, but as he worked it kept crawling down as he talked. He would pull it up again, but it did make me uneasy. Hubby and I were wearing KN95s and it's been 10 days now. *fingers crossed*

SunSeeker

(57,082 posts)
73. Gaiters aren't as effective as 2-layer cloth or medical masks, but they're better than nothing.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 04:42 AM
Dec 2020
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/08/neck-gaiters

If it's been 10 days, you're likely out of the woods.

I keep a box of disposable surgical masks by my front door. If a service person shows up with a gaiter or no mask, I ask them to put one of the surgical masks on. Nobody has refused so far, fortunately.

I supply my housecleaners, who come every two weeks, with surgical masks and vinyl disposable gloves. It's worth it to me to know they're wearing clean gloves and masks in my house. Even then, I leave the house once they arrive.

JDC

(10,925 posts)
64. You should review him on Yelp or Google
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:35 PM
Dec 2020

Just state you have used him for years, but that he refuses to wear a mask during a deadly pandemic. Until one of those things changes, you will - and have - found another HVAC tech.




*typo

Tribetime

(6,922 posts)
66. I automatically wear n95 mask in every customer's house
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 08:40 PM
Dec 2020

I work the whole time I'm in there till the time I leave I never asked I just keep it on

mdbl

(7,671 posts)
69. I did the same thing with another service person I was using. Why am i supporting a weird trumper?
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 09:52 PM
Dec 2020

I will just make it a habit to change to someone else.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,453 posts)
72. All of my service people have volunteered to wear mask.
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:40 PM
Dec 2020

It's so hard to believe this happened to you. So sorry, but it will be better in the long run AND safer.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,476 posts)
74. I'm trying to check every doctor, plumber, etc., and purge every R
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:48 AM
Dec 2020

Ibpossibly can from the list of people I pay for goods or services. Support Dems in politics and in life.!

Trueblue Texan

(3,946 posts)
75. I intend to do this too...
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:34 AM
Dec 2020

Can you offer some of your strategies? Do you just engage them in political discussions to find out who is a Trumper and who isn't or what? It's easier to do with "friends" or personal acquaintances, a bit trickier with professionals.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,476 posts)
78. There used to be a zoomable map of the US that showed every politician donation by every entity in
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 04:15 AM
Dec 2020

the country. I'm pretty sure the site was OpenSecrets.org, but I cannot find the map on the site any more. You can search on names. For instance, this search returned a lot of results https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Donald+Trump, but when I searched on my own name, there were no results, even though I have made donations.

You can also do public info searches on individuals. MyLife is one that often will say if the person is registered to a party. Here's a random person the site IDs as a registered Democrat. Not sure how accurate or up to date the info is, though. https://www.mylife.com/elizabeth-schellenger/e90196698030

Also, sometimes if you ask Dems you know, they can recommend Dem-run businesses.

I wish it were easier, but its not impossible to have some success in avoiding passing our money to Republicans. If Steve Schmidt were to suggest we all do this, I'll bet there would be more tips floating around on how to find Dem companies, doctors, carpenters, etc.

Liberal In Texas

(15,767 posts)
76. I've been asking straight out when making an appointment about their use of PPE.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:55 AM
Dec 2020

We've been putting off any repairs inside we don't have to absolutely have to have done, but if something becomes necessary to get something fixed I ask before they show up. So far there hasn't been anybody who hasn't been even keen to express their policy on using masks etc.

It's been my experience that most places know in this time of economic downturn the last thing they want to do is lose any business by not acting sensibly in people's homes. So far I haven't had one place refuse to use PPE and maintain sensible distances.




Tien1985

(921 posts)
77. Good for you! Can you
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:44 AM
Dec 2020

Can you report him/his business to your state for failing to follow guidelines?

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