I am concerned about the election results in Indiana (please bear with me and read this).

[StevieM]

I realize that we are not going to win Indiana, regardless of whether or not shenanigans took place in that state. But that doesn't mean it is not indicative of nationwide problems.

We lost Indiana by 19 points in 2016. In 2020 we are losing it by 33 points. That is a 14 point shift to Trump. No other state came close to having that kind of a shift toward Trump. (Alaska is only half counted, and we don't know where in the state those votes came from). And Indiana isn't even a state with a large Latino population, the one group that Trump seems to have improved with since 2016.

Even Utah, where Evan McMullin complicated things in 2016, only went from a 17.89 percent lead for Trump to a 19.84 percent lead. For the record, I am not sure who McMullin took more from, whereas it was pretty clear that Gary Johnson and Jill Stein both took more votes from Clinton. But Utah, with its Mormon populace, would seem to be the ultimate example of state where voters would make peace with voting for Trump in 2020 that they did not have 4 years earlier.

I realize that Mike Pence is from Indiana. But he wasn't exactly a popular governor. And having a candidate from a given state on the ticket doesn't provide the type of benefits that it used to, as we saw with Paul Ryan in 2012, setting aside Mitt Romney.

I feel there is good reason to suspect that Vladimir Putin changed the election results. And if he was changing results in Indiana then he was quite possibly changing the results elsewhere.

Biden still won. But that may be because Putin's ability to alter the election results is not absolute. It is not about simply replacing one number with another. It is possible that he is changing ballot outcomes as they go into the machines, and he can only move so fast. And maybe he can only realistically change so much without drawing immediate attention and suspicion.

I am not saying that this definitely happened. I am saying that it is possible that it did. And we should investigate to see if this concern is valid. There should be hand recounts requested, starting with Indiana.

[RockCreek]

1. Why would they bother with Indiana? Perhaps as a foil? N/t

[StevieM]

19. To keep the nationwide numbers looking reasonable.

It is hard to know how Vladimir Putin's strategizing works.

In any event, it appears that I overreacted. It looks like Indiana, and perhaps Alaska as well, is a state where they counted the early vote last.

[KPN]

2. Yeah, I kind of feel like question everything -- which kind of iondicates whatr a mess we are in as

a country.

Is there a fix?

[The Magistrate]

3. That's Just Hoosiers Being Hoosiers, Sir

If anyone was working to steal votes, Indiana would be a waste of valuable time....

[Hoyt]

4. Why would Putin or anyone change vote in a state that is rube red? trump got 3% pts more in 2020

according to latest NYT vote count. That's possible.

[Miigwech]

11. Jodi

[KS Toronado]

5. Totally agree, there's way to many red flags this election, start investigating!

[kimbutgar]

6. Indiana is and has been one of the most racist states outside of the south

It a place full of mean hateful bigoted people.

I remember as a kid driving from Chicago to Michigan and my uncle used to stop on the Illinois border to fill up and go to the bathroom because if you were a black person you never stopped in Indiana because it wasn’t safe.

[mmbrevo]

21. Obama won Indiana in 2008

I guess this infuriated some people and has motivated them to vote. But still, A black man won there.

[andym]

7. 59.4% to On NYT there is a 21% Trump advantage: 59.4% to 38.3% 21.1% in IN

21.1% is not much different than 19% in 2016.

[StevieM]

17. That is reassuring, I agree.

Apparently Indiana is one of those states where the early vote is counted last.

[BComplex]

8. I've suspected machine programming all along. The Senate races are not making

any sense at all.

[PTWB]

9. Ain't no one changing the votes in Indiana.

The simplest explanation is Trump gained ground with the types of folks who live in Indiana and turned them out.

[Boogiemack]

10. Without controlling the USPS it is more difficult to mess with mail-in ballots.

It was good, in the end, too have a push for mail-in.

[Statistical]

12. Not sure where you are getting losing by 33 pts from.

NYT is showing +21.1 for Dumpy which is a few points higher than 2016.

Also it would be beyond dumb to hack and alter a state when Trump was already winning in a landslide in 2016 to an even bigger landslide given how the EC works.

[StevieM]

18. The early vote appears to be counted last in Indiana.

Perhaps that is also the case in Alaska.

The numbers were much wider last night.

[Yonnie3]

13. The spread is tightening to 21% as absentee ballots are counted

From NY Times

Donald J. Trump 1,539,667 59.4%
Joseph R. Biden Jr. 992,560 38.3

84% of the estimated vote total has been reported.

53% of counties (49 of 92) have reported absentee votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-indiana-president.html

[Cheezoholic]

14. Yes I was surprised

With the turnout I witnessed working the polls I thought we'd do better than 2016. There were quite a bit of issues at polling sites around the state from nobody having keys to unlock the doors to fairly large precincts with only 1 or 2 machines. I don't know if I'd go as far as to being hacked but the overall further red shift was quite dramatic. Small shining light, Hamilton county has only counted about half of their mail in ballots so there is still a glimmer of hope for Hale.

[keepthemhonestO]

15. I wouldn't put it past them

I think they want to do that because they want to try to attempt increase his popular vote.

[VA_Jill]

16. Being a Democrat in Indiana

is like being a Democrat in Wyoming. Your vote doesn't count. One person, one vote, my sainted Aunt Matilda!

[blueinredohio]

20. My Ohio county is right on the Indiana line.

Trump got 71% of the votes. Need I say more?

[AwakeAtLast]

22. Dems like me have left Indiana

The Trumplicans have doubled down on crazy!