1. Many Hispanics are socially conservative

[Ex Lurker]

Abortion and LGBT are losing issues with them.

2 They're not necessarily pro-immigration, for a variety of reasons.

3. Many of them have a negative image of anything resembling socialism. The Biden campaigh didn't have a ready comeback for the Trump accusations of socialism.

4. It may seem trivial, but the attempt at rebranding them as LatinX hasn't helped. Outside a small core of activists with their own agenda, almost no one likes or agrees with it.

[redstatebluegirl]

1. They also like "strong men" 45 sells that really well.

[Wounded Bear]

2. They also seem a bit blind to Trump's socially libertine past...

and rather laissez faire attitude towards integrity.

[walkingman]

3. When you see Jesus in a cookie it is hard to get a grasp on reality.

[Claustrum]

4. As a first generation immigrant myself, I have my share of problems with our immigration stance.

Of course, I have more problems with republican's, especially Trump's child separation policies. But I land in between democrats and republicans on the immigration issue.

[Pantagruel]

5. Very large blocs of Latinos

are living day to day on low wage jobs. They can't possibly afford a shutdown and Biden is the most likely to call for one. Simple economics drove their votes, IMHO, regardless of the science or probable efficacy in controlling CV-19.

[R B Garr]

16. I would bet that is a lot of it. Good points.

I hate to say, but the lockdown might have influenced a lot of the youth vote. They want to party in their dorms and I saw some commentary that the lockdown may have increased turnout for them. They all weren't out there voting for the Green New Deal.

[JonLP24]

23. Biden won the youth vote

[Dawson Leery]

6. See post #3

.

[yaesu]

7. they voted against their own interests which points to a large part of that population

only watches fox news. They will regret it in the future if they have a future in this country under tRump, which I doubt.

[ffr]

8. Cuban Americans are dead to me.

The definition of "I got mine, you get yours." Maybe tRump's ICE will deport them before Biden steps in.

[Coleman]

13. ??? I do agree on the "I got mine" attitude

The early immigrants from Cuba (during and after the revolution) had been very successful business men and used their skills to build successful businesses in the US. This group is not supportive of later Cuban immigration that consisted of poor refugees and anti-Castro activists nor any other Latino immigration.

But the ICE reference is confusing. Cubans that arrive in the US (Dry Foot) are automatically resident aliens and can't be deported.

[dawg]

9. Let's not be too critical of a voter group that strongly supported our ticket.

If we're going to piss on anyone, then let's piss on white people. We're the *only* broad demographic that supports these pigfuckers.

[GusBob]

10. 5. They tend racist

[AnyFunctioningAdult]

11. Honestly

The most anti-illegal immigration people I have met are first generation legal immigrants (my wife is also a first generation legal immigrant). They know how much time and money it takes to come here legally. I know that is not a popular stance around here, but just a few years ago most Democrats had that same position. It is interesting how much it has changed.

[marylandblue]

14. I think this is a huge issue and the Democratic Party has to pick it up.

We are not that welcoming of a country anymore. Never really were, it was always about the cheap labor. But workers already here don't want the competition.

[JonLP24]

26. Trump keeps pulling us to the right

Now people want to move closer to where Trump is on immigration policy. It isn't just immigration Trump has a backward asylum policy.

[marylandblue]

28. Many Americans were already there. He was the only candidate to notice in 2016.

And he remains the only politician who is aware of this. We don't want the refugees either, or at least not many of them. This may be cruel, but people are like that. We need to treat them humanely, but we aren't willing to accept everyone who walks in asking for asylum.

[JonLP24]

30. I already know Obama-Trump voters voted for him because of xenophobia

Trump's immigration or asylum policy doesn't make any sense.

[marylandblue]

31. Maybe it's xenophobia, but it isn't going away, and Democrats have no answer.

Trump at least recognizes the issue and we don't. To the extent we do, we sound like we will do the opposite of what they want. Stupid Trump wins by default.

[JonLP24]

34. I think Biden will win & we can put Trump in the dustbin of history

Obama was the "deporter-in-chief" which actually hurt Biden in this campaign. Still not good enough for the Xenophobes.

A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump

A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.

“White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues,” the paper’s authors write. “We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.”

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

Biden has 65% of the Latino/Hispanic vote. I'll take it.

[tenderfoot]

32. Then why do so many US based businesses and industries knowingly/willingly hire illegals.

When will that issue ever be addressed?

Another thing that is NEVER brought up is the Visa overstays from Europe, Asia, Australia/New Zealand.

As far as I see it - immigration - legal or not will always be used as a means to divide.

[Laelth]

12. Point #4 deserves special attention.

I know some Mexican-Americans, some Puerto-Rican Americans, some Cuban Americans, and some Columbian Americans. Except for the Cubans, of whom I am not fond, they’re all awesome people in their own ways, but they are outrageously different. It is silly and self-defeating to lump them together. They aren’t even fond of one another, for various reasons, and I want to respect that.

If and when we Democrats “reach out” to them, politically, we need to do so in a far-more-sensitive and respectful manner. They’re not the same, and it’s insulting and demeaning for us to act as if they are homogeneous.

With a special shout out to my Puerto-Rican friends. Y’all are great, and I am thrilled that you look like you’re going to agree (finally) to take a shot at being a State of the United States.

-Laelth

[Mosby]

15. 5. Most don't vote.

[mtnsnake]

17. and Catholic. n/t

[GemState]

21. A significant percentage of "hispanics"

in N America, Central America and S America are evangelical protestants.

[tibbir]

18. My sister-in-law is Hispanic and she and her entire family take turns getting drunk on the kool-aid.

Her distant family lived in the area that ultimately became Texas so she does NOT empathize with anyone else from Mexico or Central America wanting/needing to take refuge in the US. She also really admires der Fuerher's "tough guy" act. We have less and less of anything to say to each other.

[GeorgeGist]

19. Wait till they...

Taste fascism.

[Ex Lurker]

20. Argentina, Chile, Honduras, Guatemala

Not like it's an unfamiliar concept

[JonLP24]

22. Biden also playing a pop song ringtone didn't help

Also telling immigration activists to vote for Trump.

November 22, 2019When Carlos Rojas, an immigration activist, pressed Biden at an event in South Carolina on the issue of deportations during the Obama administration, Biden told Rojas, “you should vote for Trump.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/15/all-the-times-joe-biden-told-people-not-to-vote-for-him/?sh=17f599f6292c

Sometimes campaigns have to blame themselves.

[SunSeeker]

24. Yup. Trump campaign got some traction with the communist label, sadly.

Especially in recent days, when they went insane over this Harris tweet calling for "Equity vs. Equality," saying it was espousing communism:

Link to tweet

[JonLP24]

25. They were a lost cause if they believe that is communism

[marylandblue]

29. Spoke to some conservatives about it, and they had a point.

The end of the video said, "equity is when we all end up in the same place." That language drove them crazy and that's not really what equity means.

[SunSeeker]

38. Exactly. It was a stupid tweet. And there was no folllow up to clarify what she meant.

Kamala is no communist. She's pretty moderate actually.

But why throw out vague shit like this the day before voting, when the GOP is drooling for evidence to backup their bullsit claims you're a communist?

She no doubt meant a "level playing field" was the "same place" she wanted everyone to be. But the video does leave itself open to interpretation.


Stupid mistake.

[GemState]

27. My rural hometown is roughly split

between Anglos and people who speak Spanish in their homes. While it’s being reported this morning that Trump support among white males was down last night nationally, it seems about the same here. There definitely was more participation among non-anglos in this election locally and it’s being reported in our local media that support for the Republican party increased across the board. Damn, just damn.

This post is a response to the OP.

[Hortensis]

33. They're mostly firmly anti-immigration, and those who are socially

conservative strongly bigoted against other races, origins, cultures, religions, etc.

The claim that someone has to vote against Democrats because they're socialists is a virtually sure sign of a conservative who always intended to vote Republican and doesn't want to explain his real reasons for voting for Trump. A useful and very used tool that only dysfunctional whackjobs actually manage to believe, albeit demonization for the same purpose -- to "justify" what cannot be.

[Turin_C3PO]

35. Hispanics here in NM

broke fairly convincingly for Biden. I guess it just depends on the region.

[JonLP24]

36. Biden won 65% of the Hispanic vote according to national exit polls

Everyone is focusing on that Trump gained from 2016 but Trump had 4 years of free advertising.

[Turin_C3PO]

37. Exactly!

For the most part, it’s not Hispanics who failed us but racist white people.