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Nevilledog

(54,661 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:43 PM Oct 2020

Texas Republicans have asked a federal judge to throw out 100,000 ballots in Harris County...



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Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
We’re getting into judicial coup territory here...

Mark Joseph Stern
@mjs_DC
Texas Republicans have asked a federal judge to throw out 100,000 ballots in Harris County cast through curbside voting. They drew Judge Andrew Hanen, one of the most notoriously partisan Republican judges in the entire federal judiciary. This is alarming. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20401146/sd-tex-20-cv-03709.pdf
11:19 AM · Oct 31, 2020
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Texas Republicans have asked a federal judge to throw out 100,000 ballots in Harris County... (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
I wonder why they don't want patriotic Americans to vote? Dem2 Oct 2020 #1
Specifically, because they're more than likely to be Democrats. dchill Oct 2020 #2
They could make them all "provisional" Backseat Driver Oct 2020 #3
All 100,000 ballots? All of them? Isn't this way overkill and how are they justifying this? I got SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #4
I love Mark Stern's tweets. Everything is alarming to him. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #5
I'm confused - didn't they "just" try this and it was dismissed? getagrip_already Oct 2020 #6
The GrOPpers are 'working the refs'. Hugin Oct 2020 #11
They Don't Have to Work the Refs... Deacon Blue Oct 2020 #21
Different case, same topic. Result will likely be the same. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #16
Wasn't it legal . ... Iliyah Oct 2020 #7
More than 100K almost all counties in TX do this for disabled JCMach1 Oct 2020 #8
Can his ruling be appealed, since this is a partisan judge? BComplex Oct 2020 #9
Dirty tricks and illegal actions is the only hope for a Trump victory. Chainfire Oct 2020 #10
Are these votes segregated? PTWB Oct 2020 #12
Yes, but probably not the way you intended the question Chainfire Oct 2020 #14
Likely - Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #17
Can we appeal? Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #13
Texas SC already tossed a similar case. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #15
Different court, different law. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #18
Same basis. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #19
Not the same basis - unless the underlying law is identical. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #20

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
3. They could make them all "provisional"
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:48 PM
Oct 2020

to force investigation(s) before counting. It would slow the count but be more accurate (likely for no good reason).

SWBTATTReg

(25,818 posts)
4. All 100,000 ballots? All of them? Isn't this way overkill and how are they justifying this? I got
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:48 PM
Oct 2020

a feeling that this is going to the very top of the justice food chain and get finally ruled on to let the ballots stand as cast (don't pitch).

In what world would this be considered fair or normal?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
5. I love Mark Stern's tweets. Everything is alarming to him.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:50 PM
Oct 2020

I'm just tired of being told how alarming something is when that something is so unknown.

getagrip_already

(17,786 posts)
6. I'm confused - didn't they "just" try this and it was dismissed?
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:50 PM
Oct 2020

It was earlier in the week.

Is this a new challenge or an appeal?

Hugin

(37,043 posts)
11. The GrOPpers are 'working the refs'.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

It was tested several times in 2000 and perfected in 2016. Keep banging the drum until you get the answer you want and then stop.

A typical strategy for them... Watch for it to be deployed often over the next couple of weeks.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
16. Different case, same topic. Result will likely be the same.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:04 PM
Oct 2020

TX Supreme Court already tossed a drive-in case. This one will likely meet the same fate.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
10. Dirty tricks and illegal actions is the only hope for a Trump victory.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

We ain't seen nothin yet!

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
12. Are these votes segregated?
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:57 PM
Oct 2020

If they haven’t separated them from the other votes, how will they know which ones were curbside votes?

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
14. Yes, but probably not the way you intended the question
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:00 PM
Oct 2020

You can bet that this action is not taking place in they doctor, lawyer and architect side of town.

Ms. Toad

(37,929 posts)
17. Likely -
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:04 PM
Oct 2020

Verification of absentee ballots can take place on arrival.
Counting can begin in some counties at the end of in person voting.

Counting is a mushy term - so I'm not sure where in the process of removing the ballots from the envelopes, scanning them, and pushing the tabulation button "counting" begins.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
19. Same basis.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:47 PM
Oct 2020

If a completely-Republican Texas SC isn't touching it, this guy isn't likely to, either, notwithstanding the doom-saying.

He's also not the end of the line.

Ms. Toad

(37,929 posts)
20. Not the same basis - unless the underlying law is identical.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:49 PM
Oct 2020

Interpretation of what is permitted (or not) is highly dependent on the specific language of the law. Interpretation by a court in a different jurisdiction of an identical law is persuasive, but not binding.

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