So now they want a payroll tax cut.

[JohnnyRingo]

If it causes such economic wonders, why didn't they do it the first time? Instead, the working class was ignored to give cuts to the Mar a Lago class. Apparently you can't cut a tax base of zero.

[pamdb]

1. tax cut

If, god help us, the big orange pustule on the buttocks of humanity does get elected, I can bet that within a month he'll say, "sorry, we can't do that tax cut because, gee, we have
to pay for the coronavirus",

[mindem]

2. I watched part of the presser

and it came out that Drumph wants to make the payroll tax cut permanent - in other words, gut Social Security. Kudlow's response was that we have a "bold" president. Any democrat that supports this needs to have their ass kicked.

[gab13by13]

11. I started a similar thread saying the same thing,

Having 0 payroll taxes will cost 1+ trillion dollars. Someone tell me with a straight face that Republicans are going to pay back that 1+ trillion dollars from the general fund.

I will help you kick ass. Social Security works, giving it to Wall Street would certainly kill it.

[ibegurpard]

3. to spend on what?

if we're not going out and not travelling?

[spanone]

4. And trump wants to make it permanent

[OnDoutside]

6. No problems, just put an equal tax on the top 1%.

[spanone]

7. we know that won't happen

[OnDoutside]

8. Exactly, but put it back to him.

[kentuck]

5. It will just add fuel to the argument for cutting Medicare and Social Security.

That's where the money comes from.

[gab13by13]

12. Exactly,

When president Obama did it he replaced the tax cut from the general fund. I watched the press conference and I heard no mention of replacing the money to Social Security or Medicare. The amount lost for having a 0 payroll tax is 1+ trillion dollars, no way Republicans are going to pay that back from the general fund.

[misanthrope]

14. They are using the opportunity to break out the knives

and start hacking at the social safety net. They will spin anything as an excuse to further advance their dream of making the U.S. resemble lawless states like Somalia.

[malaise]

9. Read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine

best book on the subject - neo-liberal cashing in on disasters

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

16. Yep. I thought there would be more posts on DU about how Klein's

shock doctrine & disaster capitalism play into this.

These are the perfect conditions for governments and the global elite to implement political agendas that would otherwise be met with great opposition if we weren’t all so disoriented. This chain of events isn’t unique to the crisis sparked by the coronavirus; it’s the blueprint politicians and governments have been following for decades known as the “shock doctrine,” a term coined by activist and author Naomi Klein in a 2007 book of the same name.

The shock really is the virus itself. And it has been managed in a way that is maximizing confusion and minimizing protection. I don’t think that’s a conspiracy, that’s just the way the U.S. government and Trump have utterly mismanaged this crisis. Trump has so far treated this not as a public health crisis but as a crisis of perception, and a potential problem for his reelection

.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dmqyk/naomi-klein-interview-on-coronavirus-and-disaster-capitalism-shock-doctrine

[malaise]

17. Same here but there is so much going on

[maxsolomon]

10. Electioneering for Dummies

Now Dems have to be the big meanies who don't want to balloon the Deficit. No fun! I hate taxes! Waaa.

[gab13by13]

13. All they have to do is give people the choice,

Do you want to have 500 - 600 extra dollars this year at the expense of losing Social Security and Medicare?

[maxsolomon]

15. Tortoise and the Hare

I thought Repukes were super concerned with the Deficit and Debt, but that was just when a black guy was Presidenting.

They're only concerned with Trump now. They're his creatures.